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Old 07-01-2002, 02:06 AM   #8
dave
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Then what do you call the people that have been held in commudicado since shortly after Sept. 11? And the holocaust is an extreme example, as well as being irrelevant. What that says is as long as we aren't throwing people in ovens we can't be that bad.
"Unfortunate." Actually, those people are being held on immigration violations. Are they being held <b>because</b> they are suspected to have terrorist links? Yes. But they are <b>not</b> being held because they are Muslims. You're confusing the two.

The Holocaust <b>is</b> an extreme example, but it is a <b>good</b> example of state-sponsored persecution. It's not irrelevant because it was a war against a religion which was effected by a government. This "war on terror" was previously referred to as a "war on islam" which I feel is grossly inaccurate. Basically, what I was saying is "no, a war against a religion would be like the holocaust". For the record, I find the Japanese-American "camps" back in World War II to be one of the most despicable things the US Government has done. So we <b>can</b> be almost "that bad" without throwing people in ovens. Fortunately, neither of those is going on today - the US Government is neither rounding up Muslim Americans nor throwing them in ovens. Happy happy joy joy.

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Then why aren't we stopping the Vietiemse and Laotian terrorists working out of CA. Or why do we continue to train people at FT. Benning to use terrorist techniques thoughout South America? And don't that it's somehow different, it isn't.
Okay. Speaking of irrelevant... I said, basically, "this is not a war on Islam" and you said what I just quoted. Huh?

Look, we've discussed previously that this is a war against al-Qaeda and the Taliban. You and I have personally gone over that. I've never said that it was a "War On All Forms Of Terror That Are Currently Happening In The World." I said it was <b>not</b> a war on Islam.

Now, is it a shame that we're not taking out terrorists <b>everywhere</b> they are? Yes. But you and I both know that the US Government can't do that lest it spread itself too thin and not be able to conquer all of the violent extremists in the world. Baby steps, man. Baby steps.
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