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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla
This is why I don't buy Radar's litmus test nor nor his "Christians without Christ" analogy. It does not serve Libertarianism. It may satisfy a certain mindset, but as for me, I have a wider vision and don't mind saying so.
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Actually, you don't buy the litmus test (Non-Aggression Principle) because it excludes you. And the reason it excludes you is because you're genuinely NOT a libertarian. You don't buy the Christians without Christ example because it makes absolutely perfect sense and you have no argument to refute it.
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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla
If you actually want libertarianism to happen, don't make the party hostile to growth.
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I am not making the party hostile to growth. I am merely refusing to sell out our principles for the sake of growth. This is exactly what the major parties did, and why everything is screwed up in America. They sold their souls to get in office and promised they'd change everything when they got there. When they did get there, they OWED the politically influential and wealthy special interests who paid for them to get there. They have always worked against the best interests of Americans and for the best interests of others.
Growth merely for the sake of growth is worthless. Growth while adhering to our principles is slower but more respectable. The Libertarian Party is
THE ONLY way to achieve liberty in America without a bloody and violent revolution.
Bruce nailed you perfectly. History is replete with examples of people who thought they could make the world a "better place" if they could just kill all the people they think are bad, and use force to enforce their own vision of what was best for them. They've always been arrogant bullies like Napoleon.
All of the empires ever made or ever to be made have crumbled or will crumble because you can't change people's minds with force. Though if you use force against them, you can unite your opposition and entrench the ideas you are trying to fight.