[Griff]

Here's the problem UG. Statism is statism whether you're arguing for hammocks for the homeless or a large mushroom cloud over Tehran, you are growing government power and reducing freedom here, in the country we supposedly control. We have built a spectacular socialist enterprise in our military and among military contractors. There is also the interesting problem in the mid-east where given the opportunity the locals will vote for oppression (I guess we do that here on a regular basis as well). If Iraqis wanted to be free they would have offed Hussein a long time ago. 1800 dead American soldiers for an Islamic Democracy allied with Iran, are you really happy with that outcome? Our involvement gives aid and comfort to the enemies of freedom by increasing their recruitment exponentially. Bush will have to hit a lot more boy scout jamborees if he wants enough carcasses for that meat grinder. Watch carefully as the Republicans slowly realize what a CF this is and begin to pull back their support. I'd hate to see a nominal libertarian left defending Bush when his impeachment should be a shoe-in.