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Originally Posted by wolf
You left out teaching you to shoot and forcibly crossing old ladies across streets.
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violence, sexism, and ageism, if you apply the ACLU's standards. The terms 'ACLU' and 'standards' should no longer be found in the same sentence. The morally just and absolutely necessary fight for equality that started in the 60s is no longer the ACLU's mission, regardless of what they'd like you to believe. They're more concerned now with keeping their leaders rich and their constituents in a constant state of victimhood. If no one's angry at heterosexual white males any more, the fine folks at ACLU have to get real jobs -- and no one wants that.
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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey
Exactly. I didn't feel like I had a choice.
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When you're a kid, you don't have "choice" in the adult sense of the word. You don't get to pick your bedtime, you don't get to sass your elders, you have to eat your vegetables. If you want to be a scout, you have to do the salute and the knot-tying and the recited oaths -- it's not a social experiment or a venue for children to feel 'liberated.' The religious subtext to scout rituals is kind of like junior freemasonry. It's all pomp and circumstance, not an attempt to convert anyone to Religion X.
Apologies to followers of 'Religion X,' if such a thing exists.
Kids need structure and discipline and routine. If their parents follow a certain value system, kids are bound by it until they turn 18, at which time they are completely free to say, "You guys are full of shit" and pick their own path (and that of
their children). /twocents