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Old 07-14-2005, 07:58 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by Undertoad
So... what made Bali a target?
What made Madrid a target?....

Lots of root causes to address here
Numerous isolated cases to make a pre-ordained point. Examples selected to forget the so many other acts of terrorism that go unreported. Then we add the others that did get reported. For example, what destroyed the Air India 747 over the Indian Ocean? What destroyed a French 747 over Africa? Why were French ships routinely shelled as the left the southern end of the Red Sea? What about the bombing of a German nightclub? The bombing of US Marines and French troops in Lebanon. The bombing of the King David hotel in Jerusalem. Who almost took out the Radisson Hotel in Amman Jordan? And why?

Remember myths about electric lines causing strange childhood diseases? Yes, myths. The study selectively chose their examples. From those selected examples, a pre-ordained conclusion about childhood leukemia created by electric lines was obtained.

UT is doing same thing here with selective violence. Selected first to inflame. If UT really wanted to understand the answer, he would have started with all terrorist events back to 1400s when Muslim Brotherhood was founded (I believe it was in what is now Turkey). He would have included the so many acts of violence and bloody riots recently in the many Ka'stan countries north of Iran. He would have included Assad's massacre of 10,000 civilians because he so feared the Muslim Brotherhood - and for good reason. And don't forget the concentration camps by Serbs for Muslim Bosnians.

But again, that goes to phony assumptions posted up top. Invent an Al Qaeda to blame for everything. Then one gets mythical and simplistic conclusions that one seeks. By not ignoring the nonsense about Al Qaeda this and Al Qaeda that, then one still does not comprehend what, who, why, or where the enemy really is.

Add to that list the murder of Sadat of Egypt. Without a complete list, then the examples are useless for drawing conclusions. If you intentionally distort the examples as George Jr does - blame everything on Al Qaeda - then you get the monolithic enemy he promotes. You get the silly enemy promoted on an embarrassing TV show called NCIS. A show designed for the dumb, ass kicking, enlisted man we need hyped so that he can even become cannon fodder.

Want to stop the violence? Just like in Vietnam, stop inventing enemies such as we did in Vietnam. Suddenly the enemy was Russia, and China, and world wide Communism. In reality is was about a civil war inspired in part by a corrupt S Vietnam government combined with a silly fear of communism everywhere (called McCarthyism).

Until you can describe the actions, intentions, philosophy, etc of the Muslim Brotherhood, then you cannot even say who the enemy is, let alone stop it. This has been ongoing for hundreds of years. You want to stop it. First understand it. Start by understanding what the Muslim Brotherhood really is.

Last edited by tw; 07-14-2005 at 08:06 PM.
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