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vsp · 07-06-2005, 04:46 PM

On that note, more holding court:

Why YOU Want Pastamastery

Once you've beaten the Naughty Sorceress, you may Ascend. Once you have Ascended, you are stuck in "Ronin" for 1000 turns, during which you have no access to the Mall, Flea Market, or donations/trades involving other players. You can pull up to 20 items and/or 1000-meat increments from your storage stash each day while you are in Ronin.

The one thing I can say about Ronin is that when I'm in it, I want it to stop. With top-notch food and drinks, I can get through Ronin in six days. Therefore, I want six days' worth of top-notch food and drinks stashed away before I formally Ascend. How much does that all cost?

(Spoilerized for your protection)

On the Drinks side, the very best drinks all require a special item (the Tiny Plastic Sword) that costs millions of meat. (About 7 million at time of this writing.) If you weren't lucky to get one in last year's Crimbo stocking, you won't be getting one any time soon. So let's stick to drinks that common folk can obtain, then.

Disco Bandit drinks give about 10-15 adventures per drink and cause 4 drunkenness. Over 6 days, figuring that you'll have Liver of Steel the whole while (not out of the question for Day 1, though difficult), that's 30 drinks total before becoming drunk as a skunk on each day.

If you have Advanced Cocktailcrafting, you can generate three DB drink items (Magical Ice Cubes, Little Paper Umbrellas, Coconut Shells) per day. That's 24, so you'll need 6 more, and LPUs go for about 1000 each. 6K so far.

You'll need 30 bottles of booze. You can vary those according to what you want to make, but an average bottle of booze might be around 1000, some more, some less. That's 36K so far.

You'll need the assorted fruit and other mixers. With a Hippy Costume, that's about another 2K for 30 oranges, olives, strawberries and such. 38K overall.

You'll need a Bartender-in-the-Box. You can adventure for the parts for one, but if you don't feel like wasting time at the Typical Tavern, that's 7.5k for two Beer Lenses. 45-6K overall and we're done building six days' worth of alcohol.

If you don't have Cocktailcrafting, what does the above cost? Most DB drinks go for around 2000-2400 apiece. So 2400 * 30 = 72K. You've saved about 26,000 meat by going the do-it-yourself route. Not too shabby.

Now food. The best food in the game is Chow Mein, and you can choose which kind you want to make according to which stat you want to boost. You can eat three per day, meaning that you'll need 18 for the six-day run.

You can assemble the ingredients for Bat Wing Stir-Fries (boosting Myst, which is never a bad idea anyway) for about 4K. All components are commonly found at the mall. 4K * 18 = 72K. I'll add in Chef-in-the-Box components similarly, so we'll bump that up to around 80K total for your Ronin run as a generous estimate.

If you just want to buy Bat Wing Stir-Fries and save yourself some trouble, they go for around 6500 commonly at the mall. That's 117K, so you're saving nearly 40K by building the Stir-Fries yourself.

Pastamastery is required to turn Stir-Fries into Chow Meins. Since you can generate three Dry Noodles a day for free, the transformation is essentially costless.

But what if you don't have Pastamastery? You're stuck buying the three best Chow Meins at the Mall... at ~11K apiece. That's around TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND MEAT instead of an 80K investment. The ~26K you save on drinks can be made up in an afternoon's trading on the Mall or Yeti-hunting; 120K meat is another thing entirely.

And THAT is why Pastamastery rocks.

07-06-2005, 04:46 PM	#158
vsp Syndrome of a Down Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: West Chester Posts: 1,367	On that note, more holding court: Why YOU Want Pastamastery Once you've beaten the Naughty Sorceress, you may Ascend. Once you have Ascended, you are stuck in "Ronin" for 1000 turns, during which you have no access to the Mall, Flea Market, or donations/trades involving other players. You can pull up to 20 items and/or 1000-meat increments from your storage stash each day while you are in Ronin. The one thing I can say about Ronin is that when I'm in it, I want it to stop. With top-notch food and drinks, I can get through Ronin in six days. Therefore, I want six days' worth of top-notch food and drinks stashed away before I formally Ascend. How much does that all cost? (Spoilerized for your protection) On the Drinks side, the very best drinks all require a special item (the Tiny Plastic Sword) that costs millions of meat. (About 7 million at time of this writing.) If you weren't lucky to get one in last year's Crimbo stocking, you won't be getting one any time soon. So let's stick to drinks that common folk can obtain, then. Disco Bandit drinks give about 10-15 adventures per drink and cause 4 drunkenness. Over 6 days, figuring that you'll have Liver of Steel the whole while (not out of the question for Day 1, though difficult), that's 30 drinks total before becoming drunk as a skunk on each day. If you have Advanced Cocktailcrafting, you can generate three DB drink items (Magical Ice Cubes, Little Paper Umbrellas, Coconut Shells) per day. That's 24, so you'll need 6 more, and LPUs go for about 1000 each. 6K so far. You'll need 30 bottles of booze. You can vary those according to what you want to make, but an average bottle of booze might be around 1000, some more, some less. That's 36K so far. You'll need the assorted fruit and other mixers. With a Hippy Costume, that's about another 2K for 30 oranges, olives, strawberries and such. 38K overall. You'll need a Bartender-in-the-Box. You can adventure for the parts for one, but if you don't feel like wasting time at the Typical Tavern, that's 7.5k for two Beer Lenses. 45-6K overall and we're done building six days' worth of alcohol. If you don't have Cocktailcrafting, what does the above cost? Most DB drinks go for around 2000-2400 apiece. So 2400 * 30 = 72K. You've saved about 26,000 meat by going the do-it-yourself route. Not too shabby. Now food. The best food in the game is Chow Mein, and you can choose which kind you want to make according to which stat you want to boost. You can eat three per day, meaning that you'll need 18 for the six-day run. You can assemble the ingredients for Bat Wing Stir-Fries (boosting Myst, which is never a bad idea anyway) for about 4K. All components are commonly found at the mall. 4K * 18 = 72K. I'll add in Chef-in-the-Box components similarly, so we'll bump that up to around 80K total for your Ronin run as a generous estimate. If you just want to buy Bat Wing Stir-Fries and save yourself some trouble, they go for around 6500 commonly at the mall. That's 117K, so you're saving nearly 40K by building the Stir-Fries yourself. Pastamastery is required to turn Stir-Fries into Chow Meins. Since you can generate three Dry Noodles a day for free, the transformation is essentially costless. But what if you don't have Pastamastery? You're stuck buying the three best Chow Meins at the Mall... at ~11K apiece. That's around TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND MEAT instead of an 80K investment. The ~26K you save on drinks can be made up in an afternoon's trading on the Mall or Yeti-hunting; 120K meat is another thing entirely. And THAT is why Pastamastery rocks.