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Guyute · 03-12-2005, 03:26 PM

OK- so if someone wantes to be THAT cynical, I was not privy to their getting started, so maybe until they got seasoned they might have not handled approaching people right. But does anyone in a new profession? When you started your current job were you such a wiz on the first day that the Big Cheese was freaking out? But they soon must have become more capable because neither couple goes to a typical nine-to-five job. The more wealthy guy has a Mercedes, a Lexus, a Town & Country and a Prevost motor coach. The other guy has a nice condo, and a Town & Country (remember this is going back a couple of years- I lost touch when I moved).

They don't "sell" a lot of products. They use what they can from their own business and show others how to do the same. They sell a little bit because over the course of several years doing something like this you are bound to run into someone who will "buy the soap" but not build the biz. That is it. I don't care what people say, but that is how it is. And why would you say that they don't sell legitimate items? Are you an expert on Amway and other MLM's product offerings? Are Ralph Lauren, Calvin Klein, Jockey and Hush Puppies not "legitimate" enough brand names? Is Hugo Boss cologne not legit enough? And what would you define as beneficial- The wax and water sold in green bottles at Wal-Fart for 83 cents and called shampoo? I know one guy whose son got his hands on their liquid drain cleaner and only shat himself silly. If that had been a "beneficial" product like Drano, he'd be pushing up daisies right now. WOuld you rather that they go to work in a legit profession like car salesmen or insurance? After all, we all know no-one EVER got screwed by a car company or an insurance company...

As I mentioned before, lots of people get going in this type of business and whallop their friends because they are accessible and they don't feel comfortable talking to strangers. They get involved with a guy who either knows little about the business concepts or is a shyster, and that is where things start to go awry.

AS for lying, they may have gotten away with lying for two or three weeks, but not two years. When a guy doesn't work for two or three years and THEN goes and buys a $130 000 car, it's time to cut the shit, pastrami- they built a legit business one person at a time and can afford to buy a top-of-the line car. The assumption that they got rich off of selling kits or scamming new recruits is retarded. There are not enough dumb people in North America to sustain a company that screws new recruits for 40 years, even though our nightly news may indicate otherwise. If a "kit" sells for about $200, how in the world can one guy sell enough of these to buy $200 000 worth of cars and still not work?

Don't get me wrong- My Dad got screwed by several of these "MLM's" and still has some of the stuff in his garage from them. I know there are many more out there that are aimed at getting people in, screwing as many people as possible, then disappearing. I'm not that naive. But in THIS particular case, the facts are simply that not ALL of them are like that. I am the first to be cynical about most opportunities and I encourage people to check them out as long as it takes for you to feel that you are safe.

03-12-2005, 03:26 PM	#15
Guyute Gamehenge Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Halifax, NS Posts: 168	OK- so if someone wantes to be THAT cynical, I was not privy to their getting started, so maybe until they got seasoned they might have not handled approaching people right. But does anyone in a new profession? When you started your current job were you such a wiz on the first day that the Big Cheese was freaking out? But they soon must have become more capable because neither couple goes to a typical nine-to-five job. The more wealthy guy has a Mercedes, a Lexus, a Town & Country and a Prevost motor coach. The other guy has a nice condo, and a Town & Country (remember this is going back a couple of years- I lost touch when I moved). They don't "sell" a lot of products. They use what they can from their own business and show others how to do the same. They sell a little bit because over the course of several years doing something like this you are bound to run into someone who will "buy the soap" but not build the biz. That is it. I don't care what people say, but that is how it is. And why would you say that they don't sell legitimate items? Are you an expert on Amway and other MLM's product offerings? Are Ralph Lauren, Calvin Klein, Jockey and Hush Puppies not "legitimate" enough brand names? Is Hugo Boss cologne not legit enough? And what would you define as beneficial- The wax and water sold in green bottles at Wal-Fart for 83 cents and called shampoo? I know one guy whose son got his hands on their liquid drain cleaner and only shat himself silly. If that had been a "beneficial" product like Drano, he'd be pushing up daisies right now. WOuld you rather that they go to work in a legit profession like car salesmen or insurance? After all, we all know no-one EVER got screwed by a car company or an insurance company... As I mentioned before, lots of people get going in this type of business and whallop their friends because they are accessible and they don't feel comfortable talking to strangers. They get involved with a guy who either knows little about the business concepts or is a shyster, and that is where things start to go awry. AS for lying, they may have gotten away with lying for two or three weeks, but not two years. When a guy doesn't work for two or three years and THEN goes and buys a $130 000 car, it's time to cut the shit, pastrami- they built a legit business one person at a time and can afford to buy a top-of-the line car. The assumption that they got rich off of selling kits or scamming new recruits is retarded. There are not enough dumb people in North America to sustain a company that screws new recruits for 40 years, even though our nightly news may indicate otherwise. If a "kit" sells for about $200, how in the world can one guy sell enough of these to buy $200 000 worth of cars and still not work? Don't get me wrong- My Dad got screwed by several of these "MLM's" and still has some of the stuff in his garage from them. I know there are many more out there that are aimed at getting people in, screwing as many people as possible, then disappearing. I'm not that naive. But in THIS particular case, the facts are simply that not ALL of them are like that. I am the first to be cynical about most opportunities and I encourage people to check them out as long as it takes for you to feel that you are safe. __________________ It's Really Plain and Easy To See, The Family grows like fungus on a tree.