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Guyute · 03-12-2005, 09:49 AM

I know two guys who have become stinking rich by most people's standards in exactly that business so vilified above. One guy makes about $200K CDN and his upline makes about $500K CDN. They did it the old-fashioned way- they worked. They approached people professionally ( I watched them do it a few times) and never misled people. It is a shame that people ruin the potential for this type of business by being either deceitful or over-zealous.

It is a dichotomy that most MLM's appeal to the average joe but the average joe has not learned how to talk to people about business or how to deal with people. SO they end up molesting their 4 friends because they are too insecure and untrained to talk to "strangers". These 4 friends, and justifiably, start to wonder wtf got into Joe and cast the whole company and process into a bad light. What pisses me off is that this is exactly the same process that rookie car salesmen, insurance salesmen, and almost any commissioned salesperson must go through, but it is the MLM people that have distorted this whole process to the point that the general population in North America is completely jaded about the opportunity. People close to the noob feel raped and then the noob starts to think that maybe his upline is a dork (in most MLM's they are) so they retire after alienating everyone around them and after having probably blown a wad of cash with a shady upline.

In a PROPERLY-RUN AND -STRUCTURED MLM you should A) not need to buy a whole ton of stuff and B) the "upline" should help you professionally approach people. The end result is someone who either learns the ropes and develops a business or someone who decides that it isn't for them and quits, but has incurred minimal startup costs and fees, and has only asked his friends once or twice, not 142 times. If I wanted to spend $30 000 to start a biz, I would buy a Mail Boxes Etc. franchise. The poor sap who sold $30K of equipment to join an MLM is either completely gullible and should sue his upline (or take him out to a deserted beach and have a chat with him and Mr. Louisville), or he spent the money on other things and the MLM is a convenient scapegoat.

I sympathise with most people because for the most part the MLM's circulating today are very dodgy or require inhibiting startup investments. The reality is that if a person is serious about an MLM opportunity, they should ask the potential upline to spend some time letting him attend meetings or go on "plans" and then they will get a sense of how legitimate the opportunity is. If the "upline" won't let the noob see anything then the guy should run. If he lets him spend some time talking to other leaders, and is able to see some plans, then he will be able to get a feel for the integrity of the upline and the MLM.

03-12-2005, 09:49 AM	#9
Guyute Gamehenge Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Halifax, NS Posts: 168	I know two guys who have become stinking rich by most people's standards in exactly that business so vilified above. One guy makes about $200K CDN and his upline makes about $500K CDN. They did it the old-fashioned way- they worked. They approached people professionally ( I watched them do it a few times) and never misled people. It is a shame that people ruin the potential for this type of business by being either deceitful or over-zealous. It is a dichotomy that most MLM's appeal to the average joe but the average joe has not learned how to talk to people about business or how to deal with people. SO they end up molesting their 4 friends because they are too insecure and untrained to talk to "strangers". These 4 friends, and justifiably, start to wonder wtf got into Joe and cast the whole company and process into a bad light. What pisses me off is that this is exactly the same process that rookie car salesmen, insurance salesmen, and almost any commissioned salesperson must go through, but it is the MLM people that have distorted this whole process to the point that the general population in North America is completely jaded about the opportunity. People close to the noob feel raped and then the noob starts to think that maybe his upline is a dork (in most MLM's they are) so they retire after alienating everyone around them and after having probably blown a wad of cash with a shady upline. In a PROPERLY-RUN AND -STRUCTURED MLM you should A) not need to buy a whole ton of stuff and B) the "upline" should help you professionally approach people. The end result is someone who either learns the ropes and develops a business or someone who decides that it isn't for them and quits, but has incurred minimal startup costs and fees, and has only asked his friends once or twice, not 142 times. If I wanted to spend $30 000 to start a biz, I would buy a Mail Boxes Etc. franchise. The poor sap who sold $30K of equipment to join an MLM is either completely gullible and should sue his upline (or take him out to a deserted beach and have a chat with him and Mr. Louisville), or he spent the money on other things and the MLM is a convenient scapegoat. I sympathise with most people because for the most part the MLM's circulating today are very dodgy or require inhibiting startup investments. The reality is that if a person is serious about an MLM opportunity, they should ask the potential upline to spend some time letting him attend meetings or go on "plans" and then they will get a sense of how legitimate the opportunity is. If the "upline" won't let the noob see anything then the guy should run. If he lets him spend some time talking to other leaders, and is able to see some plans, then he will be able to get a feel for the integrity of the upline and the MLM. __________________ It's Really Plain and Easy To See, The Family grows like fungus on a tree.