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Old 03-02-2005, 09:57 AM   #19
Catwoman
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Originally Posted by Clodfobble
No, you misunderstood. People with self-esteem problems should not have children. You asked why people want to have children, and I'm saying that people who already have pride in themselves often desire to have children, not the other way around.
Ah, yes I think I did misunderstand. Sorry about that. I would just add that the 'pride' one feels may be misguided and if you are truly content or 'proud', you don't need the reinforcement of friends or children - as we tend to reproduce either to improve our lives (low self-esteem) or recreate them (pride).

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble
And if you are truly content with your life, then I think you do know something about life.
I am alive, healthy and have the ability to see reality. What more could I want? I don't think this makes me special, just a little bit more aware.

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble
if someone asked you, would you try to persuade them that such contentedness is a good way to look at life
I would not try to persuade them, because people only learn/change when they want to. Of course I would answer any questions though.

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble
The fact that you enjoy discussing things with people is proof that you both desire to learn from and teach other people--and learning is another very enjoyable part of being a parent.
That is possibly true. Although I think the real reason I participate in discussions is the contact, recognition and pushing of boundaries, I rarely learn from it (although I am of course open to learning).

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble
You seem to have taken offense at my post
I never take offense. To do so would be reacting emotionally which wouldn't get us anywhere. Feel free to insult and curse me all you like, if you think the point warrants it.

I was fully expecting an irrational, retaliatory response, but you have replied calmly and logically, which shows a greater level of awareness than most. Maybe you would be a good parent.

All I want is for people to acknowledge they might not be. Of course everyone likes to think they'd be (or are) a good parent. I just think if the people that shouldn't be having children didn't, there'd be a lot less problems in this world.
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