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Originally posted by Undertoad
I'm not sure who to turn to. If the authorities allow the development of a terrorist base of operations in the middle of a residential area... and the authorities are the UN... who can we report them to?
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If the IRA was financed and armed mostly by Americans from North America, then is America a terrorist nation? To blame bomb making rooms on the UN is a conclusion based upon emotion - not upon world realities. These questions are strawmen to avoid the original point.
The reason for all this death and military destruction is just what the Prime Minister of Israel wants. Creating violence creates justification to annex the occupied territories and to perform ethnic cleansing. Whenever public support withers, then escalate. Escalation was Nixon's public opinion solution in VietNam. Falling public opinion and peace demonstrations in Israel explains why Sharon invaded the West Bank. We know, and major responsible news organizations have explicitly cited Sharon's objectives - the annexation of occupied territories - International law and Human Rights be damned.
It does not matter if every town and village on both sides produce bombs. Oh... wait. Both sides had been killing innocent civilians on the other side once Sharon successfully started Intafada 2. All is traceable to a corrupt mass murder who runs Israel - who saw to it that Israeli citizens and soldiers were killing Palestinians 10+ to 1. Bombs made in Jenin may have simply made peace more probable by equaling the death rates to something we all want to see - death ratios of 1 to 1. All deaths are directly traceable to the actions and objectives of Sharon who encourages Israeli civilians to shoot at Palestinians with little fear of legal prosecution. No one else is more responsible for the violence and the resulting tools of that violence than Sharon.
The UN was in charge of Jenin just as the US government was in charge of all those Americans who armed the IRA.
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Are these the sorts whom HRW was interviewing? Or just the ones who'll be subpoena'd as witnesses in your international court?
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Now I am confused. The HRW report that Undertoad cited as accurate fact is now being refuted as unreliable? Why did opinion of that HRW report change once other critical details were cited - such as war crimes by Israeli soldiers and a demand for a UN investigation.
Good nations can be turned bad. America was the evil nation in VietNam. Israel also has been subverted by those who find massacres a normal part of life. No wonder Likud and other right wing supporters would fear a UN investigation of war crimes - just as those same types feared and therefore quashed the investigation into a My Lai massacre.
Honest people called for investigation into My Lai and into Jenin. Right wing extremists simply feared the truth - in both cases.