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11-17-2004, 10:24 PM

There is NO graceful exit strategy to a situation we made fools of ourselves by entering into in the first place. How many lives did we throw away over some bullshit notion of "peace with honor" in Vietnam? How honorable were those final scenes of the fall of Siagon with the last US helicopter flying out with desperate Vietnamese trying to hang on? How many "dominoes" fell as a result of our leaving that godless war behind? Remember who our REAL enemy in the Vietnam conflict was? The "red" Chinese. Now look around and see how many items made in China are sitting around in your home, your office, the very clothes you wear on your backs. The Chinese won, not because of the Vietnam conflict, but because the American people went to sleep and allowed our government of the people to become the government of the international corporations which happily outsourced American jobs to the lowest third world bidder.

You bet China and the oil producing countries have all the economic power. Why? Because the American people handed it over to them, giving away our manufacturing capacity and ensuring that this country would do NOTHING when it came to viable solutions for a petroleum based economy. Where are our mass public transit systems? Where are our alternative energy programs? I'll tell you where - in the pockets of sociopaths like George Jr. who doesn't give a damn about the American people, only about ensuring that the wealth of the Bush dynasty and its friends at Halliburten will be secure.

Economic power = wealth = military prowness. We can skate along for maybe another 20 or 30 years, but without manufacturing, without an educated and productive population, we will ultimately meet the same fate as did the USSR - brought down by outrageous military expenditures, and foolish refusal to invest in its own people.

We can kill every last man, woman, and child in Iraq, and sit like some bloated spider on the resulting petroleum spoils of war and all we will have done is to sow the wind in order to reap the whirlwind. Your children will mark my words.

11-17-2004, 10:24 PM	#24
marichiko Guest Posts: n/a	There is NO graceful exit strategy to a situation we made fools of ourselves by entering into in the first place. How many lives did we throw away over some bullshit notion of "peace with honor" in Vietnam? How honorable were those final scenes of the fall of Siagon with the last US helicopter flying out with desperate Vietnamese trying to hang on? How many "dominoes" fell as a result of our leaving that godless war behind? Remember who our REAL enemy in the Vietnam conflict was? The "red" Chinese. Now look around and see how many items made in China are sitting around in your home, your office, the very clothes you wear on your backs. The Chinese won, not because of the Vietnam conflict, but because the American people went to sleep and allowed our government of the people to become the government of the international corporations which happily outsourced American jobs to the lowest third world bidder. You bet China and the oil producing countries have all the economic power. Why? Because the American people handed it over to them, giving away our manufacturing capacity and ensuring that this country would do NOTHING when it came to viable solutions for a petroleum based economy. Where are our mass public transit systems? Where are our alternative energy programs? I'll tell you where - in the pockets of sociopaths like George Jr. who doesn't give a damn about the American people, only about ensuring that the wealth of the Bush dynasty and its friends at Halliburten will be secure. Economic power = wealth = military prowness. We can skate along for maybe another 20 or 30 years, but without manufacturing, without an educated and productive population, we will ultimately meet the same fate as did the USSR - brought down by outrageous military expenditures, and foolish refusal to invest in its own people. We can kill every last man, woman, and child in Iraq, and sit like some bloated spider on the resulting petroleum spoils of war and all we will have done is to sow the wind in order to reap the whirlwind. Your children will mark my words.