[jaguar]

Secondly, it's only a pointless analogy if you consider analogies pointless. If you don't, it's not. And it's not misleading. I will say it again - You surrender something every time you get something worth having.

Somethign reasonable mabye. To take your petrol thing, the guy givng you the petrol has to buy it shimself, not to sell it at the same or a higher price would disadvantage him whereas a school not drug testing students doesn't lose something as a result.

You are very well read in conspiracy and how humanity will come to and end because of Big Brother. I think you need to balance it out with something about how humans are generally benign and dumb and don't quite have the desire or brains to pull off some of these things you accuse them of trying. You and I both know that cavity searches would never fly (unless it were the oral cavity), and including that in there is simply ridiculous. The uproar from parents would be phenomenal. The notion of cavity searches at school is absurd.

The cavity search but was sarcastic, the point was real. Think about it, waht better way to justify it, sport they already do professinaly, then just spread it form there, *most* peopel are indeed pretty dumb, the not-so-dumb ones are usually the ones in positions of power. ANd don't tell me they don't have the desire to do it.

You know this in your omniscience?

NO, but its where it is leading, drug testing for private schools, workplaces, then extracuricullar activities, medial checkups? gee certianly starting to cover most ground, add a few more and you hove close to blanket coverage.

That having been said, I don't think that the students challenging the practice have a leg to stand on. They will lose, and rightfully so. They are challenging it with improper ammunition. Appeal to the taxpayers and say "this program is ineffective and wastes money; demand to have it stopped!" It is well within the bounds of the law to test students for drugs so long as they are given an opt-out (i.e., don't join the chess club). Some even think that it may be constitutional to test all students anyway. That's not what we're talking about, so we're not going to go there. But it's just to illustrate that the testing of students in "competetive extracurricular activities" is constitutional.

There is usually little correlation between what is legal and what is right, or justified na dsometimes, what is allowed. All power can be abused, doesn't mean it or, or it should.