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Old 09-26-2004, 07:07 PM   #18
marichiko
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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
Well if she had a "summer" job, she knew it was coming. Sound reasoning, but who's "We'd"? Organized on a local level, in the neighborhood, in the town, great. But another federal or even state program, no thanks.

Several guys I work with have wives that are at home taking care of related and unrelated kids on a daily basis. It's what the government calls "unlicensed daycare"; it's cheap and it's available. "Licensed" is a euphemism for expensive and unobtainable for those that need it most. Any time the government gets involved, the rules and regulations become a bureaucratic nightmare.

Don't bother bitching about the money they're wasting in Iraq or any of the myriad of domestic pork barrels. That's exactly why I don't want anymore government programs, no matter how well intentioned.
Well, again, who knows if she had a summer job and just couldn't find another in time or if she refused to sleep with the boss, or she DID sleep with the boss and his wife found out, etc., etc.?

I actually am skeptical of much of what "big" government does myself. So many of the rules and regulations are damned hard on the person who is trying to run their own business, never mind the fact that some of those regulations are just stupid and wrong. On the other hand, without some kind of regulation, many big corporations will just run rough shod over the workers.

Case in point: the big uranium mining outfits that operated in western Colorado from the '40's till sometime in the '70's or '80's. In the '40's and '50's there was no EPA, and no one from OSHA wandered out from DC or even Salt Lake or Denver to make sure safe working conditions were being maintained by the big mining conglomerates. The result: The water out there became contaminated. Not just the rivers, but the water table as well. There are parts of the Dolores River that to this very day are completely dead. Its spooky to go look at that river. No fish, no aquatic insects, not even any damn algae along the banks. The area is slowly getting cleaned up (sort of), but at a frightful cost. It would have been much cheaper to put the right environmental controls in place from the start and make sure they were enforced.

Then there are all the former uranium workers who are dying or have already died of uranium induced cancers. The folks out there are simple working stiffs and in the 40's and 50's they didn't understand about something called an LD50 or just how rich in uranium the ore from any given mine was or when they needed to use extra precautions, and the corporations weren't about to enlighten them to these things either. Guess who foots the bill for the whole mess? You and me because the original corporations have morphed and merged and disolved into off shore banks somewhere, so there's no one left to be held accountable.

Now, Bruce, you can say "it's nothing to me" if a man is dying or uranium induced cancer, but, personally, I can't do that. That miner was producing uranium that went for the national defense of this country and love nukes or hate 'em, we're all still Americans and this is our country and our government, so I can't turn my back on that miner.

Its not an easy question and there are no winners on either side except possibly for a few fat cat CEO's of international corporations that thumb their noses at the rules whenever possible.

Last edited by marichiko; 09-26-2004 at 07:20 PM.
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