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Old 09-18-2004, 12:54 PM   #67
richlevy
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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
From AP news

This guy is pissed off because our soldiers raided private homes, trying to find the people that are walking up to cars and killing, undeterred. With this death before dishonor culture, predominant throughout the middle east, I think we can forget a rational settlement to anything.
In practical terms, no matter how noble our intentions, it’d be best to mind our own business. Declare a great victory and go look for Osama.
Which is pretty much why our forefathers, who became disenchanted with an occupying force, came up with the Fourth Amendment.

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Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
If it's not a war zone, then the principle of the 4th amendment is in effect. If it is a war zone, then our government is lying to us about the transfer of power, etc.

Just like Guantanamo is a US prison that's not a US prison, we are being told that Iraq is stable but not stable, or, as I like to think, 'dangerously safe'.
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