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Originally Posted by Undertoad
If you are truly interested in facts, and not just conjecture, the only correct answer is I don't know. But you have spent post after post claiming lie, lie, lie when you could not possibly know. Emotional? Yes in spades.
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So those Weapons of Mass Destruction may still exist? So Saddam conspired to destroy the World Trade Center and Pentagon? So Saddam was a threat to the United States? So widespread looting did not occur in Iraq. So Saddam had programs of biological and nuclear weaspons? So Iraq is getting better - becoming a stable democratic nation?
George Jr claims these to be true. Even worse, George Jr had insider information that said his own statements were lies.
George Jr lied about the alumumin tubes. Facts from responsible sources said otherwise. But still many believed a lying president. How can those facts be emotional? Emotional is to deny these facts - to say "I don't know". Of course you know he was lying. Denial will not change the fact that George Jr overtly lied.
This is not an honest president. If he was honest, then we would immediately know who outted a CIA agent as revenge to her husband also telling the truth - exposing another George Jr lie. Saying that George Jr lies repeatedly is fact. Stating it repeatedly is necessary because too many here even believed lies about alunumin tubes. Too many would even forgive this president for unilaterally and illegally attacking another sovereign nation.
We once reelected another lying president. We ended up with a Constitutional crisis so major that many - including members of the Supreme Court - considered a coup d'etat as possible. Thirty years later, we may just make that same mistake again. Lying presidents - people who tell outright lies to create war - are extremely dangerous. Far more dangerous than even a medicore president such as Gerald Ford.
Curious. Confronted by fact after fact that George Jr lied - instead you says "I don't know". Some are so emotionally attached to a president that their eyes refuse to see. This president lies. This president is that dangerous to the world. He lies overtly to promote what his ideologues tell him to do. A president who does not even make his own decisons. A president who is told how to think also routinely lies.
Curious that you still deny this president lied to invade Iraq. At least you have changed. You are now saying "I don't know". I assume that is a major concession.
Months ago, George Jr had a National Security study that said all three options for Iraq are bad. Maybe he did not read that memo also. And yet just yesterday, he gave another speech about how things are getting better in Iraq. That speech is a lie. We know this from the president's own study. He lied again - just as Nixon lied. Such presidents are that dangerous to this nation.