[jaguar]

ah fuck the both of you. For a start, lookout, the chechen situation is entirely different to a hypothetical event that happens in the UK, if with your rather myopic vision you should be able to see that. The thing you don't seem to fucking get, either of you, is the difference between understanding and feeling their actions are just. I get why they took a school full of hostages, I don't think it's right or just, I never have said and maybe if I say it enough times you'll get it though your thick skulls that there is a significant difference in meaning. The thing is I honestly don't give much of a fuck about the morality of these things, when rubber hits road any sense of morality goes out the window on both sides, it's a nonissue. What I'm interested in is the why and how, solve those and you'll stop it happening, far more constructive that fawning over the dead and hollow condemnation.

It's interesting, particularly considering you've read that uni/multipolar article that you don't see what happened. For fucking the west has fucked with governments and people with impudy, with the exception of a couple of groups like the IRA it's been with zero risk to the homeland. This particular brand of Islamic fundamentalism has acted as a homing beacon to all sorts of pissed off types, some legitimate in basis (Chechnya, Saudi Arabia), some not (Spain, Australia). It's become a source of power in and of itself. It's religious extremity makes it both impossible to negotiate with and difficult to eradicate. A careful, planned, nuanced strategy executed by major European nations and the US could bring it under control in a decade or two, this war on terror shit is like kicking a hornet's nest then complaining when you get stung. If a group does decide to take over a school it'd be no loss to humanity if they all end up full of enough lead to use their dicks as pencils but it's not going to stop it happening again.

Gung ho 'human fillth waste the sandniggers' type shit got us here, the way out is far more delicate and requires patience and tolerance. React to attacks in a way that reduces the chances of them happening again, not sate the bloodlust of the general populace. Invading Afghanistan was the right idea, Iraq was not. Clearly the chances of that sinking in are pretty low. This is where democracy fails, the strategy that will bring this to an end will never be accepted by a populace that just can't fucking understand what is going on.

If a school full of children is taken hostage in the UK my first question is what the fuck are the police doing, they seem to be keen enough to curtail rights, if they can't stop attacks they should drop the fucking pretense and at least let the rest of us avoid living in 1984.

Let's have some fun, should this guy be allowed to say this stuff? Personally I'm not sure, this is where free speech meets anti-hate legislation, something I tend to dislike. Does this guy carry any weight? Hard to tell. Will he convince anyone to take up arms in the UK? I doubt it, at least not like this. If he is in other ways I'm sure we'll see pics of him being picked up by a team of MP5 wielding UK's finest soon enough.