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jane_says · 07-08-2004, 10:39 AM

First, Jim, mari is not the one who used the words "free society" - that was Undertoad. Second page, about 2/3 of the way down, in one of many drive-by posts. I don't have to be from the future to know that Smooth's scenarion IS. NOT. GOING. TO. HAPPEN. I'm not arguing with mari - I think the China scenario presents a better analogy - we invaded Iraq, took down the dictator, and continue to hold many innocent citizens prisoner, have little "accidents", and generally bull up when anyone suggests that we ought to move right along. I'm saying that if Irag had wanted out from under Saddam, they're have done so themselves. It would have been bloody, to be sure, but certainly no more so than we've caused it to be.

Show me where I've put words in Smooth's mouth. I also asked for proof of using a straw man - no answer on that either yet.

New or not, lumberjim, thanks for the advice on "stepping in it", whatever you mean by that. If your intent was to spare me the embarrassment of getting eaten alive by more experienced, red-hot debaters, I'll fend for myself.

Thanks for your concern, though.

Also, at the other quality message boards where I post, accusations of trolling, even thinly-veiled ones, or ones that include singing, are grounds for banning. I suspect that's not the case here?

Argumentative does not equal wrong.

07-08-2004, 10:39 AM	#3
jane_says Colonist Extraordinaire Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: SW VA Posts: 200	First, Jim, mari is not the one who used the words "free society" - that was Undertoad. Second page, about 2/3 of the way down, in one of many drive-by posts. I don't have to be from the future to know that Smooth's scenarion IS. NOT. GOING. TO. HAPPEN. I'm not arguing with mari - I think the China scenario presents a better analogy - we invaded Iraq, took down the dictator, and continue to hold many innocent citizens prisoner, have little "accidents", and generally bull up when anyone suggests that we ought to move right along. I'm saying that if Irag had wanted out from under Saddam, they're have done so themselves. It would have been bloody, to be sure, but certainly no more so than we've caused it to be. Show me where I've put words in Smooth's mouth. I also asked for proof of using a straw man - no answer on that either yet. New or not, lumberjim, thanks for the advice on "stepping in it", whatever you mean by that. If your intent was to spare me the embarrassment of getting eaten alive by more experienced, red-hot debaters, I'll fend for myself. Thanks for your concern, though. Also, at the other quality message boards where I post, accusations of trolling, even thinly-veiled ones, or ones that include singing, are grounds for banning. I suspect that's not the case here? Argumentative does not equal wrong.