"In a country founded on living by the rule of law, the courts decide. That means the law has to cover every conceivable end run, or the law has to say you have to follow the rules made by X agency that cover every conceivable end run."
How's that workin' out, tryin' to codify every conceivable circumstance, and puttin' all your faith in men and women who present themselves as being Bastiat's 'finer clay'?
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"OK I'm minding my own business and keeping my hands to myself while my business is poisoning the water supply, the air, or food.
Most definitely you 'not' minding your own biz or keepin' your hands to yourself. I went through this sequence of specious thinkin' with Happy Monkey (I think...might be wrong) a few months back. HP offered the same example. If you have a mind to, you can find the thread by goin' here...
https://cellar.org/search.php?searchid=10204920
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"The only time they self regulate is when it's part of collusion between themselves to screw us."
Would you, in their position, automatically try to screw the other guy, the little guy?
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"Tossing them out is a pipe dream, they won't quit without a fight and have the money, guns, and lawyers to win."
Tossin' out the tyrant doesn't happen via the ballot box or in court.
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"The only way to fix it is to be involved from selecting the dog catcher on up..."
I disagree.
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"I wouldn't say nobody agrees, I think most people feel it can't be done, (see money, guns, and lawyers), so the best we can do is pressure legislators to protect the public from them with regulations. Not ideal, but maybe possible."
A while back, well before you and me, some folks (about a third of the population) decided to break with the powers that be. These folks were countered by another third of the population who liked things as they were, and both sides had to deal with a third of the population who largely didn't give a crap one way or the other.
I imagine the break down is close to that in the here and now.
The difficulty of the act is, in itself, no reason not to 'try'.