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Mystic Rythm 12-29-2004 02:41 AM

God and Devil
 
The pain and suffering which world endures can only exist in retaliation to something excessively good and pure. We feel the pain because we know state of no pain. First we are given gospel of truth and then thrown into lies. who attested those truths? Is he who opposes god a devil? Then he opposes no more than what god tells us to oppose, evil. God and devil are no different but mere conception of human mind. Both are same. Nothing has hurt mankind more than its god. He who is born out of ashes can rise no above.

Sperlock 12-29-2004 09:14 PM

I think mankind and it's interpretation of God, their gospels of truth, etc. hurts mankind more than God does.

Carbonated_Brains 12-29-2004 10:50 PM

God and devil are no different but mere conception of human mind. Both are same. Nothing has hurt mankind more than its god. He who is born out of ashes can rise no above.

Seriously, philosophy is dead.

What is this crap.


BE MORE COHERENT

wolf 12-30-2004 01:01 AM

Funny, I was thinking that this was one of mystic's better posts. He uses punctuation, upper and lower case letters, and makes some interesting philosophical points.

elSicomoro 12-30-2004 01:15 AM

Okay, okay...I'm Mystic Rythm. Sorry to put you all through this...carry on.

Carbonated_Brains 12-30-2004 01:23 AM

You filthy, unwashed, stinky liar!

elSicomoro 12-30-2004 01:26 AM

Look man, it's only been 3 days since my last shower.

Griff 12-30-2004 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sycamore
Okay, okay...I'm Mystic Rythm. Sorry to put you all through this...carry on.

Banned!

elSicomoro 12-30-2004 09:05 AM

I will then come back as BannedSycamore, call you all a bunch of fucking idiots™ and photoshop something mean-spirited involving you.

OnyxCougar 12-30-2004 12:21 PM

I think that everything has an opposite.

Therefore if there is a God that represents love, creation, truth, compassion and justice, there is an opposite force (a "devil") that represents hate, destruction, lies, indifference and injustice.

In the Christian mindset, the devil is not as powerful as God, because Lucifer was once an angel, created by God. This means that ultimately, Good will triumph over Evil, as good is (in the long run) more powerful than evil. This is then further ensured by Jesus' sacrifice and ascension, enabling him to come back to earth and meet Lucifer face to face, and subduing him.

Other pantheons have similar concepts in different forms, but the idea in most is centered on good vs. evil. If you do good, you will advance, be rewarded. If you do evil, you will not advance, be punished.

It is the timeless struggle.

Carbonated_Brains 12-30-2004 11:06 PM

Or just bollocks.

russotto 12-31-2004 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnyxCougar
I think that everything has an opposite.

Therefore if there is a God that represents love, creation, truth, compassion and justice, there is an opposite force (a "devil") that represents hate, destruction, lies, indifference and injustice..

IIRC, this argument is an official Catholic heresy. Watch out for Spaniards with lighted brands.

Beestie 01-01-2005 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnyxCougar
... the devil is not as powerful as God, because Lucifer was once an angel, created by God.

You know how sometimes you get a thought so uncomfortable you banish it before it has a chance to root.

I just wondered the opposite of your point.

OnyxCougar 01-02-2005 02:35 PM

I think I will choose to banish that opposite thought.

Mystic Rythm 01-03-2005 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sycamore
Okay, okay...I'm Mystic Rythm. Sorry to put you all through this...carry on.

Better resonate one's own personality: good or bad, weak or strong!


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