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lookout123 08-18-2004 03:54 PM

Extreme vigilante justice
 
I first read throught this article and my thought was the "bastard got what he deserved". but then i thought a little more and decided that they should have simply restrained him and called the cops and left it up to the justice system. then i remembered that there is very little justice in the legal system - so i am hesitantly thinking that the guy got what he deserved.

If i found a guy outside my 5 year old's window jerking off, would i do any different? maybe. i don't think i would have beat him with a tree branch and then sodomized him with it. if i were enraged enough to go to that extent i think it would make more sense to bind and gag him, drive him 5 minutes to the open desert, put 2 rounds through his forehead then burn the body in an open grave. it could be done in less time and with less effort.

i honestly don't know. i feel the guy deserved it and i don't really have a problem with the street justice he received. the danger i see is that if this becomes acceptable, what would prevent me from killing the neighbor i don't like and then claiming he was a peeping tom?

any thoughts from the cooler minds lurking in the cellar?

Peeping tom in ICU

jaguar 08-18-2004 03:57 PM

Well, this kind of thing is the first baby step on the road to the breakdown of civilization, apart from that, not much to say really. We have a justice system, it's purpose is to decide what is just.

lookout123 08-18-2004 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jaguar
We have a justice system, it's purpose is to decide what is just.

no - it's purpose is to decide what is legal and prosecute violations. legal and just aren't the same thing.

Trilby 08-18-2004 04:30 PM

No--I wouldn't have assaulted him. I would have made him very uncomfortable while restraining him and call the cops. I would show up for every court hearing and I would make sure that the other men in jail with him knew what he was in for. Raping somebody with a tree branch is no joke. He may very well die and then those people will be up for murder.

garnet 08-18-2004 05:27 PM

I can understand that those people were pissed, and I could maybe understand if they slugged him a couple times. The whole tree branch thing is just twisted though--I don't think anybody could justify that.

lookout123 08-18-2004 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by garnet
The whole tree branch thing is just twisted though--I don't think anybody could justify that.

i'll agree with the tree branch sodomization job, but part of me still doesn't have a problem with clubbing him.

i've got personal experience (i didn't do it, relax) with someone who did take a guy out to the desert, pop him and bury him. i know it sounds brutal, but the guy in the situation got home from work and heard screams, only to find his wife being beaten and raped just outside the garage door. i can't say i look at the guy negatively for doing what he did.

Trilby 08-18-2004 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123
... someone who did take a guy out to the desert, pop him and bury him. i know it sounds brutal, but the guy in the situation got home from work and heard screams, only to find his wife being beaten and raped just outside the garage door. i can't say i look at the guy negatively for doing what he did.

Well-live by the sword...sometimes you just reap what you sow. Did the guy who killed the rapist get charged?

lookout123 08-18-2004 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Brianna
Well-live by the sword...sometimes you just reap what you sow. Did the guy who killed the rapist get charged?

he would have to have been caught. so no - there were no charges.

jinx 08-18-2004 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123
he would have to have been caught. so no - there were no charges.

Did they report the rape? If not, how did the wife get medical treatment or counseling?

lookout123 08-18-2004 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jinx
Did they report the rape? If not, how did the wife get medical treatment or counseling?

i don't honestly know how they dealt with that whole ball of wax jinx. but i'm sure they didn't want to draw attention by reporting a rape. she had a black eye, and a few cuts and bruises but no severe physical damage. psychologically? i just don't know. she is a grade school nurse and at this point in time seems to be pretty well adjusted.

me being a guy and all, i looked at it like this:

Problem: woman abuser
Solution: woman abuser quits breathing
Problem: gone

thanks, now i'm going to be awake all night thinking about this.

Radar 08-18-2004 06:09 PM

I'd have setup a log on top of a hill, tied his hands behind his back, nailed his testicles to the log, and kicked it down the hill. After that, I'd do something mean to him.

lookout123 08-18-2004 06:13 PM

Here is the link to the Smoking Gun. you will see the mug shots of the people involved along with the police report.

The Smoking Gun

jinx 08-18-2004 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123

thanks, now i'm going to be awake all night thinking about this.

Sorry http://www.cellar.org/images/smilies/biggrin.gif
That was my first thought too though; "Good, he deserved it." But honestly, I wouldn't want to be in the position they are now. I would feel guilty and I would worry about getting caught.

Troubleshooter 08-18-2004 06:28 PM

I'm of the desert, shallow hole, bullet in the head camp.

Cheaper, safer, no chance of recidivism.

lookout123 08-18-2004 07:15 PM

yeah - if you are going to do it - make sure they are dead so they can't testify. juries have greater sympathy with a living "victim" than they do with a corpse.

jinx - as far as the person i know - this has been a few years and no one even heard a word on the news about a missing person. that was the only tense part, i guess - waiting to see if there would be a missing persons report.


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