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jaguar 04-08-2003 03:53 AM

Al Jazeera baghdad office bombed
 
al jazeera baghdad office bombed
Only article on it online i could find, heard it on the radio here. Aparantly also a well marked TV vehicle was fired upon by allied troops killing 3. Clearly freedom of speach only extends to well vetted 'embedded' reporters.

dave 04-08-2003 05:19 AM

Clearly "freedom of speach" only extends to United States citizens on United States land, actually. I don't remember there being any such thing in Iraq.

jaguar 04-08-2003 08:00 AM

Well i would have thought the United States Army/Navy/Airforce/Marines were there to implant (wanted or not) United States Ideals like Democracy. I wouldn't have though, considering how well the war is going, how few civilians they're shooting etc that they wouldn't have been bombing and shooting journos. Which is of course also a breach of the oh-so-selective Geneva Convention as members of the press are classified as civvies.

dave 04-08-2003 08:22 AM

Yes, and I'm sure it was intentional. Because the United States wants to piss off the arabs even more. Mmmm hmmm.

Whit 04-08-2003 01:27 PM

     So, we attacked them because of their news coverage? Well, it's a good thing for them that we don't have bombs big enough to take the place out then. Clearly all we could afford was the one bomb, and if they could still be using the facilities moments later then it wasn't very powerful. Or maybe it was powerful but due to our archaic targeting systems didn't make a good hit. It's a shame we are so poor and underequipt. :rolleyes:
     Jokes aside, perhaps you've heard of the Iraqi use of civilian dress to attack US soldiers? What was the circumstance of the van being fired upon? Your damn right if a van pulled up in front of me and I didn't know who was about to pop out I'd perforate the shit out of it. I can easily see that scenario, soldiers on an empty street van drives up, perhaps a little too quickly, and bang, you have bodies.

jaguar 04-08-2003 04:25 PM

According to reports here it was clearly marked as a TV crew. I"ll find something online later.

Whit 04-08-2003 06:45 PM

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...4807&e=3&ncid=
Quote:

Ukrainian cameraman Taras Protsyuk from the Reuters news agency and Jose Couso, a cameraman from Spanish televison station Telecinco, were killed when a US tank fired on the Palestine Hotel, where foreign journalists have been staying.

The US military said the tank had fired a single round at the hotel after coming under grenade and small arms fire from the building. Journalists in the building denied that there was any gunfire from the building.
     Here ya go. We can see we were obviously going after Spanish and Ukranian journalists. Of course we would, it makes perfect sense. No explanation needed. Christ... Look, shit happens in everyday life, it happens even more in war. I like a good conspiracy theory as much as the next guy, maybe even more, but this type of thing happens in a war.
     Of course I still haven't seen anything about a van.

Rucita 04-10-2003 07:17 AM

I want to think it was just a great mistake. All the journalist that were hostting in the "Palestine" Hotel have said they didn't hear any type of fire from that building.

When one of your "military boss" (sorry, I don't know which is the word) and the spokewomen Victoria Clarke were asked about it they answered that the soldiers heard fires from the lobby of the hotel, but then, why did the tank shoot 15th floor? I've seen the images of the France 3 T.V. and it's really hard to understand what really happened. And most of all it's really sad.


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