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footfootfoot 08-15-2015 09:13 PM

Is Sigma Nu an especially rapey fraternity?
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...ef=mostpopular

When I was at UVM in the mid 80s Simga Nu was shut down for a while because they raped some girl(s) passed out on booze.

I've always associated Sigma Nu with rape, well, all fraternities really, but Sigma Nu seems to pop up in rape cases more frequently.

gvidas 08-15-2015 09:50 PM

Having not even bothered read the above linked article, I doubt they are any more rapey than the others. Men, especially in groups, are pretty rapey.

From the "I like bleak books and I cannot lie" dept, I recently picked up Missoula. Great book. Pretty damn bleak. Illuminating tho.

My takeaway from the book was that our (western, American) general understanding of trauma and truth tends to fuck over rape victims. Add a bit of intense tribalism (fraternities, sports teams, etc) and give the elders of that tribe some influence in the news, politics, or law, and the rape victims are basically fucked two or three more times on the way down.

xoxoxoBruce 08-15-2015 10:06 PM

I went to the link, but it's an audio recording of poor quality, and I can't understand how many people are talking, some at the same time, or what they are saying. The circumstances it was recorded under makes me wonder how much is true and how much is alcohol fueled macho bullshit. I've witnessed cases where a guy gets a hand job at the drive-in movie and later is all, yeah, I fucked that bitch six ways to Sunday.

Lamplighter 08-16-2015 10:04 AM

I haven't read the book, but in the radio interview the author emphasized
the problem was primarily the District Attorney who would not prosecute,
but used various (intimidating) tactics to turn the girls/women away from going to trial.

it 08-17-2015 03:11 PM

I would actually guess that they are - there's a reason this sort of thing is shocking in the first place.

And seriously, as this happened to anyone? How often have you hang with a group of guys and see a passed out woman and they go "yay lets all take turns fucking her!"? I've been to parties, but I've never actually seen that. I have seen and had the opposite reaction - seen a passed out friend of ours and taking her back to her place.

DanaC 08-17-2015 04:03 PM

They don't just think it and do it...they think it, do it and then post happy snaps about it on facebook.

elSicomoro 08-22-2015 01:08 PM

They were the nerdy fraternity when I went to Southeast Missouri State...I actually considered pledging them.

it 08-27-2015 03:47 PM

So what you are saying is... They were friendzoned?

classicman 09-01-2015 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gvidas (Post 936264)
Men, especially in groups, are pretty rapey.

WTF?!?!?!? Um, no.


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