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xoxoxoBruce 03-24-2014 06:17 PM

Bad News Vegetarians
 
A Matched Sample Study...

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Our results revealed that a vegetarian diet is related to a lower BMI and less frequent alcohol consumption. Moreover, our results showed that a vegetarian diet is associated with poorer health (higher incidences of cancer, allergies, and mental health disorders), a higher need for health care, and poorer quality of life. Therefore, public health programs are needed in order to reduce the health risk due to nutritional factors.

orthodoc 03-24-2014 06:36 PM

This is a cross-sectional study, i.e. a snapshot at one point in time. The study authors used the data from the Austrian Health Interview Survey, a self-reported set of data. There are major biases associated with self-reported data, from self-selection to recall bias.

The authors took the single point-in-time snapshot and then ignored confounders. For example, people with cancer, allergies, and (possibly) mental disorders are more likely to try different diets, including vegetarian, in an attempt to manage their health. Bottom line: a cross-sectional study gives you a look at the prevalence of disease in a selected population at a single point in time. It can't say anything about causation. But the authors suggest that a vegetarian diet is involved in the causation of the various diseases.

BAD SCIENCE!

PLoS One is an open-access online journal that accepts 70% of what is sent to it. It depends on readers to decide what's important; apparently scientific integrity isn't on its list of priorities. That's not to say that more strictly-reviewed journals are perfect, but this one has (reasonably) been called the Public Library of Sloppiness.

I'm going to print this one out for my next Journal Club as an example of a poorly executed study. Sorry, Bruce. But I know you threw this out there to see who'd bite. ;)

Aliantha 03-24-2014 07:13 PM

haha...that's why I'm not a vego. I don't want to be a burden to society, so I'll just keep drinking more and have a higher BMI. That should help society. :)

monster 03-24-2014 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by orthodoc (Post 895360)
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xoxoxoBruce 03-25-2014 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by orthodoc (Post 895360)
Sorry, Bruce. But I know you threw this out there to see who'd bite. ;)

I didn't understand how they came to there conclusions and couldn't be bothered to spend any time figuring it out, because it doesn't concern me... and never will. :bacon:
I brought it here for the poor deprived people it might concern to wrestle with.

heane 03-25-2014 12:29 AM

bad science?

footfootfoot 03-25-2014 10:23 AM

I.e. Only temporarily blinded.

Happy Monkey 03-25-2014 12:12 PM

Life causes cancer. The longer you live, the higher your chances.

Lola Bunny 03-25-2014 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 895393)
Life causes cancer. The longer you live, the higher your chances.

That's right.


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