Date Rape
 

This was the result, or I should say part of the result.
http://cellar.org/2012/fearus.jpg

FearUs.Org has the backstory and this link to a 1985 newspaper article about social psychologist Jacqueline Goodchilds' survey.

There's been some really interesting and important work done in this area. Sometimes quite startling to see the results.

Here's a more recent study of attitudes amongst young people in the UK towards gendered violence (study group was taken from a handful of scottish highschools):

http://www.ndvf.org.uk/files/document/1093/original.pdf

It wont let me cut and paste quotes from it, but I recommend it for an interesting read. It isn't just about male on female violence, it looks at attitudes towards violence and abuse within teenage relationships more generally.

"He is so turned on he thinks he can't stop."
and
"She gets him excited sexually."

Isn't this implying exactly the same thing, only worded differently?

In the first example, it's not his fault he is such a virile man that he can't help when he gets a boner. It's a compliment to that guy.

In the second example it's not his fault she's sexy or pretty or maybe kissed him too passionately. It's a criticism of that girl.

So, yeah, the same thing, really. Just from different angles.

Also, because it has the highest approval rating by far from the women, I'm guessing the kids thought it was implying that she had deliberately engaged in some sort of sexual activity with him already. Most similar to "she is going to but changes her mind."

Language is important, the old, "I don't think that means what you think it means", plays a big part in any attempt at mutual agreement/understanding. From Dana's link.

I was amazed that there were any approving response at all in the women's column.

I remember a study of college aged men where one of the questions was, "Is it ok to rape a woman?" something like 96% responded No. The next question was "If a woman gets drunk and passes out is it ok to have sex with her?" Some overwhelmingly large number responded Yes.

Clearly there needs to be more education.

"Emotional slaughter."

I like that. The phrase, not the slaughter. It is slaughter.

Years ago, I read a Readers Digest article about Dartmouth
fraternity members attending a meeting where the age of consent
was being debated.

A motion to set the age of consent to 16 yrs was amended and passed
by the fraternity majority ... The amendment made it mandatory.

:rolleyes:

Well Dartmouth is in the boonies, so they have to supplement with local talent.

42%???

Fucking WOW.

I found that whole report fascinting. It was quite nuanced.

But as glatt demonstrated, the questions may nuanced to the author, but confusing to the students who are trying to apply them to their experience, or hearsay from their friends.

She claimed she said no. But he knows that's impossible because of the duct tape. ;)

yea well what happens when 'she' comes into your room drops a couple condoms at your feat and looks at you like 'which way did he go george'.. so you have sex and then 'she' turns around and says 'you sexually offended me you minute man'...

In 1978 there was no generally accepted concept of date rape; if rape happened it was always and only the woman's fault. There was no point reporting an acquaintance assault, and there were no supportive social networks. The only responses would be, "What were you doing there? What did you do to provoke it? Just because you acted like a slut, don't ruin HIS life by making trouble."

It just didn't make sense to report date rape at that time.