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Spexxvet 02-07-2012 08:37 AM

What's the bare minimum
 
What's the bare minimum standard of living that an American should have, and how much will it cost?

Should every American have food, clothing, shelter? How about a TV, phone, heat/ac? Should we minimally have an education? If so, to what level?

How much does a household need to gross in order to provide this standard of living for itself?

henry quirk 02-07-2012 09:18 AM

"What's the bare minimum standard of living that an American should have(?)"
 
The bare minimum standard of living for an individual is best determined by the individual for him- or her-self.

glatt 02-07-2012 09:26 AM

I have it on good authority that no more than one angel at a time can sit on the head of a pin. Although I can picture them sitting side by side and wrapping arms around each other, and resting one cheek each on the pin to stay there. It would require some balance and strength, but I think they could do it. So, I'm not sure I believe the one angel answer.

henry quirk 02-07-2012 09:42 AM

I'm sure angels on pinheads have all manner of woes (where and how to go poop is the one that comes to mind first).

Fortunately, for me: I'm no angel, and I don't live on a pinhead (though, often, I'm surrounded by them).

Spexxvet 02-07-2012 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by henry quirk (Post 793378)
The bare minimum standard of living for an individual is best determined by the individual for him- or her-self.

So what's the bare minimum you need for yourself and your family?

henry quirk 02-07-2012 10:00 AM

"So what's the bare minimum you need for yourself and your family?"
 
No offense intended, but, that's no body's business but mine.

I'm no body's baseline... ;)

jimhelm 02-07-2012 10:22 AM

these are communist thoughts.
knock it off.

Clodfobble 02-07-2012 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet
What's the bare minimum standard of living that an American should have, and how much will it cost?

Why are you limiting your question to Americans? That seems rather arbitrarily nationalist of you.

limey 02-07-2012 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jimhelm (Post 793405)
these are communist thoughts.
knock it off.

I see nothing communist in the original question.

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 793412)
Why are you limiting your question to Americans? That seems rather arbitrarily nationalist of you.

That's what I was thinking, too ...

Spexxvet 02-07-2012 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 793412)
Why are you limiting your question to Americans? That seems rather arbitrarily nationalist of you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by limey (Post 793413)
I see nothing communist in the original question.



That's what I was thinking, too ...

Ok, make it humans.

footfootfoot 02-07-2012 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 793412)
Why are you limiting your question to Americans? That seems rather arbitrarily nationalist of you.

and probably cisgendered too, if we press him on it.

infinite monkey 02-07-2012 01:07 PM

We must look at each case individually. What is the bare FOOT would need?

:p:

Sundae 02-07-2012 01:19 PM

Human beings need to be loved in order to live.
I am barely scraping by in that regard.

Clodfobble 02-07-2012 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet
So what's the bare minimum you need for yourself and your family?

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Originally Posted by limey
We must look at each case individually. What is the bare FOOT would need?

Well, for me, personally... I would really require a tent, sleeping bags, and a steady supply of matches or cigarette lighter fuel to get me going.

Beyond that, the right to prostitute myself or otherwise perform labor in exchange for goods or money from others. The right to gather firewood in my surrounding area. The right to hunt for animals and cultivate a garden in my surrounding area. The right to drink the raw milk from my goat, and the right to occasionally kill some of her babies for meat.

The only big one I can think of that someone would have to outright give me in the beginning: safety and protection from others who might try to steal my efforts or hurt my family. If not that, then I'd have to add a gun and lots of ammo to my tent, sleeping bag, and steady supply of firestarters.

infinite monkey 02-07-2012 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 793471)
We must look at each case individually. What is the bare FOOT would need?

:p:

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble
Quote:

Originally Posted by limey
We must look at each case individually. What is the bare FOOT would need?

:unsure:


First victim? Moi? Poor monkey. Now you'll never get monkey milk. ;)


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