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SamIam 10-31-2011 05:13 PM

Should the US have a third party?
 
The British government of George III had more support from the original 13 colonies at the time of the US Revolution than the current US government does from its own citizens.

A recent New York Times poll found that a record 84 percent of Americans disapprove of how Congress is handling its job, the highest since the Times began polling in 1977. The poll further found that 89% of Americans distrust the government to do the right thing. That’s even higher disapproval than the ratings after the 1995 government shutdown.

These ratings make President Obama’s lackluster 46% approval rating seem like a love-in by comparison.

In addition, nearly all Americans remain fearful that the economy is stagnating or deteriorating further, and two-thirds of the public said that wealth should be distributed more evenly in the country. Seven in 10 Americans think the policies of congressional Republicans favor the rich. Two-thirds object to tax cuts for corporations and a similar number prefer increasing income taxes on millionaires.

At the same time as a majority of Americans are against corporate tax cuts, corporations have become persons and their rights are enforced under the 14th amendment – an amendment originally made to protect the rights of the freed slaves after the Civil War.

Not only have corporations become people, they get more money from the government than do the veterans who have served our country in the Iraq/Afghanistan and other wars. Financial and other institutions that were bail-out recipients still owe the taxpayer 94 billion dollars. By contrast, the entire annual budget for the Veteran’s Administration is 66.7 billion.

Who loves ya, baby? Congress will take the banks over the men and women who have served their country anytime.

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies,” - Thomas Jefferson.

Where’s old Tom when we need him?

So, now what? Does the country need a third party untarnished by affiliation with the two current major parties and corporate interests? Is such a party even possible in present day America? What would the platform of a viable third party look like?

Thoughts?

HungLikeJesus 10-31-2011 05:19 PM

I think we need a Halloween party.

classicman 10-31-2011 07:05 PM

Yes, even though your sources are pretty biased.

SamIam 10-31-2011 07:23 PM

You're right. One of my sources is from the government itself! :p:

classicman 10-31-2011 09:09 PM

like I said. ;)

ZenGum 10-31-2011 09:14 PM

I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.

richlevy 10-31-2011 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 768770)
I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.

Bumper sticker nomination.:thumb:

HungLikeJesus 10-31-2011 09:49 PM

I saw it on a car just last week.

classicman 10-31-2011 09:53 PM

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Its been all over FB for months. Occupy has T-Shirts for sale and posters galore.
Its really been catching on as of late.

I also saw a button somewhere...

elSicomoro 11-02-2011 09:55 PM

Here's the problem with congressional disapproval...

"I fucking hate Congress...but my Congressman is awesome!"

And there you go. If people would just say, "You know, you all suck and have to go," then we might see some real changes.

SamIam 11-02-2011 11:17 PM

Well, I for one have no respect what-so-ever for anyone currently "serving" in Congress. The incredible cost of an effective election campaign ensures the corruption of anyone elected. No one can get into congress without spending millions. Special interests step in to fill the war chests and incidently buy themselves a congressman.

My congressman can smile and shake hands with the best of them, but his soul belongs to the Cattleman's Association and Coors beer along with a couple of giant financial outfits. :eyebrow:

glatt 11-03-2011 07:33 AM

My congressman is an idiot. But I've voted for him in every general election. I've voted against him the one time someone challenged him in a primary, but the challenger was actually worse than my congressman was, and he lost. I voted for him just because a change would have been good.

Today my congressman was in the paper because he was introducing a circus animal rights bill while flanked by Bob Barker on one side and Jorja Fox from CSI on the other. Don't we have some more serious issues facing the nation right now?

I think term limits would be a good idea. At every level of government. Two terms should be enough for every position. (Although I can see a small town having trouble finding enough qualified people to serve on a town board.)

infinite monkey 11-03-2011 08:39 AM

My congressman is Boehner. 'Nuff said.

Trilby 11-03-2011 09:20 AM

i voted revolution.

I'm totally ready.

infinite monkey 11-03-2011 09:22 AM

Me too.

Besides...a third party? I didn't get invited to the first two parties. :mad2:


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