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Undertoad 03-01-2011 09:11 AM

Why am I fat? Because my self-esteem is crushed.
 
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/0...rges/?emc=eta1

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Do you treat yourself as well as you treat your friends and family?

That simple question is the basis for a burgeoning new area of psychological research called self-compassion — how kindly people view themselves. People who find it easy to be supportive and understanding to others, it turns out, often score surprisingly low on self-compassion tests, berating themselves for perceived failures like being overweight or not exercising.

The research suggests that giving ourselves a break and accepting our imperfections may be the first step toward better health. People who score high on tests of self-compassion have less depression and anxiety, and tend to be happier and more optimistic. Preliminary data suggest that self-compassion can even influence how much we eat and may help some people lose weight.
This is it. This is the WHOLE GODDAMN THING. It's not about fast food. It's not about the dumb food pyramid. It's not about high fructose corn syrup. It's not about not knowing what to eat. It's not about what foods are cheap.

It's about being a broken human being. It's about being self-destructive. Why be healthy when you feel worthless?

jimhelm 03-01-2011 09:46 AM

ah... go have a cheeseburger and forget it

footfootfoot 03-01-2011 10:25 AM

It's a viscous cycle. 75W90

Trilby 03-01-2011 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jimhelm (Post 713911)
ah... go have a cheeseburger and forget it

FIRST a fifth of vodka, THEN the cheeseburger.

Sundae 03-01-2011 12:11 PM

Great.
Now I'm not just fat I am broken also.

Just call me Humpty Dumpty.

Shawnee123 03-01-2011 12:22 PM

Well don't drink diet soda. It just shoves you further into the blackhole that is addiction.

Probably if you drink a lot of water too. Or, you're addicted to breathing air.

Buncha addicts.

;)

Clodfobble 03-01-2011 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad
It's about being a broken human being. It's about being self-destructive. Why be healthy when you feel worthless?

But what if... I'm not saying it's like this for everybody, but I know from experience it's like this for me... what if, just like drinking alcohol can affect your emotional and mental state, eating food that's bad for you can, in fact, make you feel worthless? Not just because you ate the food and you've been taught to feel guilty about that, but because we're really just a bag of chemical reactions when you get right down to it, and it turns out that chemical A results in neurological state B?

For my money, the chain is: the type of food we eat directly affects our emotional/psychological state, and that state then affects how much of the food we continue to eat, which then leads to the weight gain. It's like no one can take just a little heroin, you know? And why bother to take less heroin when you feel worthless? But if you could really break the cycle and were taking no heroin at all...

Flint 03-01-2011 04:29 PM

Boooo!! Boooo!! We God-fearing, Hummer-driving Americans are SICK of this hippie bullcrap about how food affects the human body or whatever. Food is just a flavor that you chew up and swallow--your body doesn’t care what it is! A bag of potato chips fills you up just as well as a cheeseburger, doesn’t it? And what is chemical reactions anyway? Some made-up “science” stuff that they lie to your kids to get ‘em to turn gay. Or muslim. I don’t know which is worse. I sure as hell ain’t believe in no neurological whatsit is because I didn’t eat enough rabbit food for the Obama hitler vegan satan atheist faggots from "Jew York" city. Who hate America.

Undertoad 03-01-2011 04:36 PM

I suspect you're right.

At the same time, it flips: the mind/body connection is so strong that if you believe the food you're eating is good for you, you will feel better, no matter what its actual nutritional value is. This is proven time and time again.

Spexxvet 03-02-2011 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 714073)
the mind/body connection is so strong that if you believe the food you're eating is good for you, you will feel better, no matter what its actual nutritional value is.

You'll feel better right up until you can't fit through the door.

footfootfoot 03-02-2011 12:37 PM


HungLikeJesus 03-02-2011 03:31 PM

I only eat from the top of the food pyramid, because the top of a pyramid is still a pyramid. The bottom of the food pyramid is the food trapezoid, and that can't be good for you.

glatt 03-02-2011 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus (Post 714336)
I only eat from the top of the food pyramid, because the top of a pyramid is still a pyramid. The bottom of the food pyramid is the food trapezoid, and that can't be good for you.

Then you are eating a healthy diet, albeit a small one, because the new food pyramid is proportional from top to bottom.

Pico and ME 03-02-2011 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 714073)
I suspect you're right.

At the same time, it flips: the mind/body connection is so strong that if you believe the food you're eating is good for you, you will feel better, no matter what its actual nutritional value is. This is proven time and time again.

Have you ever seriously followed a really balanced and healthy diet long enough to know the difference?

Undertoad 03-02-2011 11:14 PM

My own experience doesn't count as it would be anecdotal by definition.


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