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tw 12-20-2009 07:31 PM

Spirit Dies?
 
One Martian Rover got stuck in sand many months ago. Ongoing has been a rescue mission. But nothing has worked.

Some of the most successful American science missions - that was designed only for months and has lasted years - may be in a death watch.

Engineers may be running out of options. See the story at Spirit.

The Martian Rovers were a last 'hail Mary' attempt by JPL to save science. A program created in the 1990s. Pioneered in Cornell University for the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) in CA. Most useful science from NASA only comes from unmanned operations. Martian Rovers are two spectacular examples of what makes science work. Because Mars is so harsh, these Rovers have done what only robots can due with a few hundred watts of energy. Loss of Spirit would be a tragedy - loss of a real hero.

Perry Winkle 12-20-2009 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 619546)
One Martian Rover got stuck in sand many months ago. Ongoing has been a rescue mission.

Master Yoda?

wolf 12-20-2009 09:54 PM

I keep telling you that we are getting too close to things that the Martians don't want us to see. That's why all these Mars missions are failing left and right. It has nothing to do with misplaced decimals by lowest bid contractors!

Elspode 12-20-2009 09:56 PM

No, no, no. It's management, Wolf. Management.

footfootfoot 12-20-2009 09:57 PM

Fast, Cheap, and Out of Control. But would NASA listen?

Nooooooooooooooooo. We like our paradigm just as it is, thank you very little.

Quote:

The title of the film is a play on the old engineer's saying that out of "fast," "cheap," and "reliable," you can only produce an end consumer product that is two of those three (the classic example is a car). Rodney Brooks, the robot scientist from MIT, wrote a paper in which he speculates that it might be more effective to send one hundred one-kilogram robots into space, instead of a single hundred-kilogram robot, replacing the need for reliability with chance and sheer numbers, as systems in nature have learned to do. The advantage would be that if a single robot malfunctioned or got destroyed, there would still be plenty of other working robots to do the exploring. The paper was fully titled "Fast, Cheap and Out of Control: A Robot Invasion of the Solar System", and published in the Journal of the British Interplanetary Society in 1989.
The film is available on VHS and DVD and the soundtrack by Caleb Sampson is available on CD

footfootfoot 12-20-2009 09:58 PM

It's nature's way of telling you

dar512 12-20-2009 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 619579)
It's nature's way of telling you

Not to use passive voice?

kerosene 12-20-2009 11:07 PM

No, that you gotta go.

TheMercenary 12-21-2009 05:10 AM

http://www.zamandayolculuk.com/cetin...923NAZIUFO.jpg

footfootfoot 12-21-2009 08:59 AM

ARTIST: Spirit
TITLE: Nature's Way
Lyrics and Chords


It's nature's way of telling you something's wrong
It's nature's way of telling you in a song

/ Asus2 - G#sus4 G# / /

{Refrain}
It's nature's way of receiving you
It's nature's way of retrieving you
It's nature's way of telling you
Something's wrong

/ C#m AB / / E B / A - /

It's nature's way of telling you, soon we'll freeze
It's nature's way of telling you, dying trees

{Refrain}

It's nature's way, it's nature's way
It's nature's way, it's nature's way

/ AB BA / /

It's nature's way of telling you
It's nature's way of telling you
Something's wrong
It's nature's way of telling you
It's nature's way of telling you
In a song, oh-h

It's nature's way of receiving you
It's nature's way
It's nature's way of retrieving you
It's nature's way
It's nature's way of telling you
Something's wrong, something's wrong, something's wrong

... / A B A B A B C#m - /

tw 12-21-2009 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 619662)
It's nature's way of telling you something's wrong
It's nature's way of telling you in a song

It was bound to happen. After crashing so many probes into Mars, eventually we were going to get Mars pregnant.

ZenGum 12-21-2009 07:29 PM

Chortle.

I know it is silly, but I feel attached to those two robot explorers. It is easy to anthropomorphise them.

Even if spirit is completely bogged, it can still do a little useful work, helping us make super-accurate measurements of Mars' orbit.

It will be a sad day when both finally shut down for good.

footfootfoot 12-21-2009 07:57 PM

"I'm afraid Dave...
Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer, do..."

/HAL

Pie 12-22-2009 03:18 PM

So, Spirit and Opportunity will lay dormant for decades. Centuries, even. Then some day, they will be visited by... people. Astronauts will bring them back to Terra, back to the Air and Space Museum, back to life!

They will be studied and photographed, perhaps they will have a ticker-tape parade.
:celebrat:

xoxoxoBruce 12-22-2009 03:27 PM

They'll probably be humiliated, tortured, and sold for scrap, by Martian hobos.


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