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dar512 06-01-2009 09:08 AM

The BBC having problems with English
 
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The problem is not limited to the BBC. I've seen a number of major English mistakes lately from major news organizations.

Don't they have editors anymore?
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Sundae 06-01-2009 10:14 AM

Websites are like takeaway menus. They are written too quickly, checked too sloppily and will always contain at least one glaring error.

The Beeb's newsite is terrible for it.

I have always been tempted to contact them and offer them my proof reading skills. £5 for every mistake I find. It might keep them on track. I always want to proof read for takeaways as well - one dish of my choice to check the menu before any money is spent on printing. Not a bad deal. I've never had the front to try it though.

And sadly - most of the customers (of either) never notice anyway.

dar512 06-01-2009 10:46 AM

I think you should give the BBC thing a shot, SG. It sounds like a good idea to me.

xoxoxoBruce 06-01-2009 11:11 AM

I wonder how many people even notice? They're so used to seeing typos and poor spelling/grammar/composition on the web, it probably doesn't even register.:rolleyes:

monster 06-01-2009 11:55 AM

Is this thread like the emperor's new clothes? OMG that's truly an horrendous thing for the Beeb to do..... so obvious it doesn't need pointing out....... of course if you can't see it you're clearly beneath us and very, very stupid.....

glatt 06-01-2009 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 569998)
so obvious it doesn't need pointing out....... of course if you can't see it you're clearly beneath us and very, very stupid.....

I'm still not sure what the problem is. Is it "compared with" instead of "compared to?" Either is perfectly acceptable to me.

Flint 06-01-2009 12:19 PM

Last line: illicit should be elicit. Something that spellcheck wouldn't catch.

Maybe they're cutting costs by outsourcing editorial duties to the F7 key?

glatt 06-01-2009 12:23 PM

I should never be an editor. I know the difference between those two words but never would have caught that.

Pie 06-01-2009 12:47 PM

I also don't like the use of "anti-abortion" as a noun, which it ain't.

Clodfobble 06-01-2009 02:20 PM

If you want to get really technical, you aren't supposed to say "compared to countries such as the UK" either.

Such as serves the same function as which--both must begin their own clause, and require a comma. To attach it to the current clause would require using the word "like" (instead of such as) or "that" (instead of which.)

What they really meant was "compared to other countries, such as the UK" or else "compared to countries like the UK."

dar512 06-01-2009 02:35 PM

Pie and Clod's criticisms are correct, but it was the misuse of illicit vs. elicit that grabbed me. I'm not really a grammar nazi, but "that word doesn't mean what they think it means".

joelnwil 06-01-2009 02:48 PM

What if I elicit an illicit response? Would such an act of eliciting be illicit?

dar512 06-01-2009 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by joelnwil (Post 570026)
What if I elicit an illicit response? Would such an act of eliciting be illicit?

Explicitly!

Happy Monkey 06-01-2009 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Pie (Post 570015)
I also don't like the use of "anti-abortion" as a noun, which it ain't.

Headlines often have unneccessary words missing; as long as you can understand them they should be OK.

ZenGum 06-01-2009 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 570023)
If you want to get really technical, you aren't supposed to say "compared to countries such as the UK" either.

Such as serves the same function as which--both must begin their own clause, and require a comma. To attach it to the current clause would require using the word "like" (instead of such as) or "that" (instead of which.)

What they really meant was "compared to other countries, such as the UK" or else "compared to countries like the UK."


My gripe was that it compares two incomparable things: the abortion issue, and the UK.

What they meant was: why does this issue elicit such a strong respons in the USA compared to in the UK?


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