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Aliantha 04-27-2009 12:07 AM

Global Warming Poll
 
Just for interest sake, let's see who thinks we're responsible and who doesn't...once and for all.

ZenGum 05-01-2009 01:33 AM

I feel sorry for one-post threads, so here I am to keep you company.

I am not completely happy with the options but I picked the one closest to my views.

I would like to vote for:

While climate does normally vary, current human activities (including, but not limited to, release of fossilised carbon) are affecting the system and are pushing it well outside the normal, natural range of variation.

And, this is very likely to be significantly to our detriment.

But, this is only one of several serious ways in which we are shitting in our own nest, and I guess others are going to bite us hard before the climate gets to us. In no particular order: resource depletion such as over fishing, deforestation, soil degradation, overuse of water; pollution of many varieties but mostly of air and water; the greying of our population; the massive debt of most world economies; the increasing brittleness of the web which nurtures us (eg just in time delivery of food and energy supplies, etc).

I try not to think about this shit too much. It can be very depressing. I do what I can, but that isn't much.

Aliantha 05-01-2009 09:18 PM

Well gee thanks for the post Zen. It was mainly for the poll though, and plenty of people have responded to that. I made the answers visible so that we can all get a clearer idea of people's perspective during political debates. It was mostly because to me, some people seem to get into arguments about the semantics of the issue even though they're really arguing from the same position.

Lately it's like a debating team turning on itself with regard to global warming debates around here. A bit frustrating.

Aliantha 05-01-2009 09:20 PM

Oh and you're right. It is depressing to think about how much we've buggered up our environment. Virtually every aspect of it.

xoxoxoBruce 05-01-2009 11:06 PM

What do you mean "we". :eyebrow:

ZenGum 05-02-2009 09:33 AM

Its a polite way of saying YOU, great Satan American! :p

Trilby 05-02-2009 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 562160)
Its a polite way of saying YOU, great Satan American! :p

Finally! Some recognition!

xoxoxoBruce 05-02-2009 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 562160)
Its a polite way of saying YOU, great Satan American! :p

And don't you forget it, worm.

TheMercenary 05-02-2009 01:30 PM

http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2007/07/03/Ahmadinejad.jpg

Aliantha 05-03-2009 01:57 AM

I meant mankind. I don't think Satan has anything to do with it...specially since he's fictional. ;)

LabRat 05-03-2009 09:45 AM

IMHO we are speeding up a natural cycle. That's all I have to say about that.[/Gump]

sugarpop 05-06-2009 04:56 PM

I think the following two answers are saying pretty much the same thing...

We're partially responsible, but it's natural anyway AND
We're making it happen quicker

The second one implies it's natural but we're making it happen quicker, the first one implies we're making it happen quicker even though it's natural.

Either way, we need to try and fix it, and for reasons other than the apparent ones, like all the health issues.

piercehawkeye45 05-06-2009 05:38 PM

You can't really fix it. The Earth has an equilibrium and by changing the carbon cycle we putting the Earth's natural carbon cycle out of equilibrium. We cannot do anything about it besides wait unless we literally take the CO2 from the atmosphere and place it miles underneath the surface. The cycle will go back to normal but it will take possibly hundred of thousands of years.

sugarpop 05-06-2009 05:54 PM

We can slow it down by choosing technologies that don't exacerbate the problem even more.

piercehawkeye45 05-06-2009 06:01 PM

Yes, but there is no practical way to undue what has already happened.


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