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Skunks

01-24-2009 06:40 PM

the only truth is that there is no truth

Interesting NYT article about the difficulty of being a journalist in a conflict where both sides are so passionate and so polarized that anything but complete complicity with one side is akin to complete complicity with the other.

Quote:

No place, date or event in this conflicted land is spoken of in a common language. The barrier snaking across and inside the West Bank is a wall to Palestinians, a fence to Israelis. The holiest site in Jerusalem is the Temple Mount to Jews, the Noble Sanctuary to Muslims. The 1948 conflict that created Israel is one side’s War of Independence, the Catastrophe for the other.

Ethan Bronner, "The Bullets in My In-Box"

It's strange to realize that the only really objective thing you can say is that everyone is biased.

regular.joe

01-24-2009 06:48 PM

Everyone is biased and history is written by the victors.

Beestie

01-24-2009 08:20 PM

Oh, there is truth. But we have no idea what it is.

xoxoxoBruce

01-24-2009 08:30 PM

Usually the truth doesn't tell you much.

The United States invaded Iraq. That's the truth but doesn't tell you a whole lot. Most people want to know more, but any more than that gets subjective. To overcome that you have to tell both sides of why, but there's not just both sides of why, there's as many sides of why as there are people to ask.

Besides, you can't handle the truth. :headshake

piercehawkeye45

01-25-2009 10:24 PM

The truth is that you will always be wrong.

tw	01-25-2009 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by regular.joe (Post 526073)

Everyone is biased and history is written by the victors.

So what would the world look like if the side with the prettiest battle flag got to write history?

skysidhe

01-26-2009 12:12 AM

The truth! You can't handle the truth!

someone had to say it

xoxoxoBruce

01-26-2009 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by skysidhe (Post 526491)

someone had to say it

I did.

TheMercenary

01-26-2009 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 526445)

The truth is that you will always be wrong.

Actually the "Truth" is always somewhere in the middle.

ZenGum

01-26-2009 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 526498)

Actually the "Truth" is always somewhere in the middle.

Usually, but not necessarily always.

And I deride your truth-handling abilities!

TheMercenary

01-26-2009 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 526521)

Usually, but not necessarily always.

And I deride your truth-handling abilities!

"You can't handle the truth!"

Undertoad

01-26-2009 07:29 AM

This is now the "you can't handle the truth" thread.

wolf	01-26-2009 09:52 AM

This existential crap makes me nuts.

I'm happy it's become movie quotes instead.

Now there's a comment on the human condition.

Sundae

01-26-2009 10:11 AM

You can't handle my truth.
(but if you're lucky I might let you fondle my aphorism)

Pie	01-26-2009 10:18 AM

If it lasts for more than four hours, call your doctor.

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