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Skunks 12-24-2008 10:28 PM

Dec 24, 2008: Santa Brings the Coal (ash)
 
via NYT:

In short, it seems that the ash produced by Kingston Fossil Plant was stored in a pond. That is, until about two days ago, when a dam or levee burst.

http://cellar.org/2008/25sludge_600.JPG

Beyond the simple kinetic problem of a sludge-flood, apparently there is some question as to exactly how toxic the material is.

Quote:

The Tennessee Valley Authority has issued no warnings about the potential chemical dangers of the spill, saying there was as yet no evidence of toxic substances. “Most of that material is inert,” said Gilbert Francis Jr., a spokesman for the authority. “It does have some heavy metals within it, but it’s not toxic or anything.”
http://cellar.org/2008/25sludge2_600.JPG

On the flip side, Tennessee Valley Authority did provide a really nice fly-by video of the spill area. Their website probably has the highest resolution .wmv, but you can also find it on the NY Times website and, most-streamable, this copy on youtube.

Kasszia 12-24-2008 11:52 PM

I'd say he made an ash of himself.

SPUCK 12-25-2008 01:06 AM

Merry Christma.....damn!!

gozar 12-25-2008 10:40 AM

The video is better if you watch it while listening to Monkee Gone to Heaven by the Pixies.

onetrack 12-26-2008 12:01 AM

The NYT is pretty big on the "may be" toxic content of the fly ash .. but not real big on kicking a***, when it comes to the engineering failure here.
These power station engineers and managers are paid big $$$ to ensure, that what they do, engineering and safety-wise, is fundamentally sound.

Looks like someone needs to go back to school to get a better grasp on subjects such as .. soil stability .. engineering dam walls for strength .. etc etc ad infinitum.

The lawyers will have a field day with this kind of incompetence, and we all pay for it .. :(

classicman 12-26-2008 04:31 PM

85% of the problem is directly traceable to the engineers....

TheMercenary 12-27-2008 07:20 AM

Moral of the story is to know where you house is on a potential flood plain. If there is a levee or dam up the hill from where you live you might be a fool if you bought a house and land in that location. We use to live in a neighborhood that was a bit hilly with various serene ponds about. I never could understand why anyone would have ever bought one of the two houses that were directly below the dam that held the pond water in. The top of their roofs were below the dam. I mean really, wtf.

Leokins 12-28-2008 12:10 PM

My workplace was built on a flood plain. I'm told that this is because the land is cheap. We do get a few puddles now and then that we have to pump out, but overall I'm not too... ah man my coffee cup just went down river.

Karenv 12-29-2008 01:23 AM

[quote=onetrack;516649]The NYT is pretty big on the "may be" toxic content of the fly ash .. QUOTE]

Don't want it in MY watertable. The wells here will really suck.

Undertoad 12-29-2008 08:29 AM

The wells in Brooklyn?? :O

Griff 12-29-2008 09:27 AM

I believe UT is asking you to update your location or educate yourself on NYC's water supply. Unless you really are using an old well.:greenface


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