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An intersting commentary by TheTelegraph.co.uk

Revenge of the Left across the world
Whatever the exact result of the US elections tomorrow, we must assume that the whole governing machinery of Washington and the state capitols will soon be hostile to laissez-faire thinking.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/c...the-world.html

I was thinking something similar recently.

There is a metaphorical pendulum swinging on any political axis you care to name. Has the economic policy pendulum reached the apex of its swing? Is Chicago-school, laissez-faire economics about to turn deeply unfashionable?

A good thing if it is, say I. The market is not always right, greed is seldom good, individuals do not actually make all their decisions in line with their narrowest economic self-interest, there are important things in life which cannot be expressed in dollar terms, and collective decision-making is often more rational than individual decision-making.

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The market is not always right, greed is seldom good, individuals do not actually make all their decisions in line with their narrowest economic self-interest, there are important things in life which cannot be expressed in dollar terms, and collective decision-making is often more rational than individual decision-making.

*nods* well put, Zen.

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 500444)

.......we must assume that the whole governing machinery of Washington and the state capitols will soon be hostile to laissez-faire thinking.

Even more than that, hostile to every right leaning issue.

I've been in this left leaning environment before. It's unacceptable. Fortunately for me I'll not be in the US to endure all the BS.

There's a project in the works that should keep me productively busy for 09 and possibly beyond. That will distract me from the fact that the communists have taken over the US and reconstructed it in their own image. :)

Hah, just like a capitalist pig running-dog lackey to desert the sinking ship. No wait, that's rats. Sorry. ;)

ETA: Is this a thread we can believe in yet?

We'll replace the neo-cons with the commies. Oh, well. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 500773)

Hah, just like a capitalist pig running-dog lackey to desert the sinking ship. No wait, that's rats. Sorry. ;)

ETA: Is this a thread we can believe in yet?

If you mean the subject at hand, possibly. In this country I think is more closely associated with the results of the Congressional races and the eventual outcome in both houses. As the article states, internationally I believe it is closely tied to the economic crisis. I was interested to note how widespread the crisis was outside our borders and in fact it was a world wide pervasive attitude among lenders and barrowers, not something that was caused by US practices alone. Banks in the EU and Far East made the same mistakes and have suffered the same outcomes. It may not be over yet.

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 500773)

Hah, just like a capitalist pig running-dog lackey to desert the sinking ship. No wait, that's rats. Sorry

If only I were a Capig. Freedom is much more valuable to me than money. Both is better but big freedom and small dollars is more favorable than big money and small freedoms.

Seems like both will be declining here soon.

I can still post to the cellar outside of the US anyway. :) (so far)

From the Richmond Times Letters to the Editor

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Beware Charismatic Men Who Preach 'Change'

Editor, Times-Dispatch:
Each year I get to celebrate Independence Day twice. On June 30 I celebrate my independence day and on July 4 I celebrate America's. This year is special, because it marks the 40th anniversary of my independence.

On June 30, 1968, I escaped Communist Cuba and a few months later I was in the United States to stay. That I happened to arrive in Richmond on Thanksgiving Day is just part of the story, but I digress.

I've thought a lot about the anniversary this year. The election-year rhetoric has made me think a lot about Cuba and what transpired there. In the late 1950s, most Cubans thought Cuba needed a change, and they were right. So when a young leader came along, every Cuban was at least receptive.

When the young leader spoke eloquently and passionately and denounced the old system, the press fell in love with him. They never questioned who his friends were or what he really believed in. When he said he would help the farmers and the poor and bring free medical care and education to all, everyone followed. When he said he would bring justice and equality to all, everyone said "Praise the Lord." And when the young leader said, "I will be for change and I'll bring you change," everyone yelled, "Viva Fidel!"

But nobody asked about the change, so by the time the executioner's guns went silent the people's guns had been taken away. By the time everyone was equal, they were equally poor, hungry, and oppressed. By the time everyone received their free education it was worth nothing. By the time the press noticed, it was too late, because they were now working for him. By the time the change was finally implemented Cuba had been knocked down a couple of notches to Third-World status. By the time the change was over more than a million people had taken to boats, rafts, and inner tubes. You can call those who made it ashore anywhere else in the world the most fortunate Cubans. And now I'm back to the beginning of my story.

Luckily, we would never fall in America for a young leader who promised change without asking, what change? How will you carry it out? What will it cost America?

Would we?

Manuel Alvarez Jr. Sandy Hook.Beware Charismatic Men Who Preach 'Change'

Editor, Times-Dispatch:
Each year I get to celebrate Independence Day twice. On June 30 I celebrate my independence day and on July 4 I celebrate America's. This year is special, because it marks the 40th anniversary of my independence.

On June 30, 1968, I escaped Communist Cuba and a few months later I was in the United States to stay. That I happened to arrive in Richmond on Thanksgiving Day is just part of the story, but I digress.

I've thought a lot about the anniversary this year. The election-year rhetoric has made me think a lot about Cuba and what transpired there. In the late 1950s, most Cubans thought Cuba needed a change, and they were right. So when a young leader came along, every Cuban was at least receptive.

When the young leader spoke eloquently and passionately and denounced the old system, the press fell in love with him. They never questioned who his friends were or what he really believed in. When he said he would help the farmers and the poor and bring free medical care and education to all, everyone followed. When he said he would bring justice and equality to all, everyone said "Praise the Lord." And when the young leader said, "I will be for change and I'll bring you change," everyone yelled, "Viva Fidel!"

But nobody asked about the change, so by the time the executioner's guns went silent the people's guns had been taken away. By the time everyone was equal, they were equally poor, hungry, and oppressed. By the time everyone received their free education it was worth nothing. By the time the press noticed, it was too late, because they were now working for him. By the time the change was finally implemented Cuba had been knocked down a couple of notches to Third-World status. By the time the change was over more than a million people had taken to boats, rafts, and inner tubes. You can call those who made it ashore anywhere else in the world the most fortunate Cubans. And now I'm back to the beginning of my story.

Luckily, we would never fall in America for a young leader who promised change without asking, what change? How will you carry it out? What will it cost America?

Would we?

Manuel Alvarez Jr. Sandy Hook.

I agree. Everytime McCain mentioned the change he would bring, I was scared to pieces!