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Cloud 04-08-2008 10:32 AM

Personal drama ensues . . .
 
(don't ya just love the word, "ensues?")

Daughter No. 2's divorce and custody is shaping up to be very nasty, very quickly. She took out a restraining order against hubby (not uncommon); he retaliated by contesting it and calling DHS on her.

Fucker.

Anyway, now we are looking at bringing the grandson, a 9-year old from her previous marriage, out here to get him out of the drama. We were planning this anyway, but we were trying to wait out the school year and bring him here for summer. Now with DHS involved, Daughter is totally freaked out, and fearful that they will remove the child. No reason to, really, but she doesn't trust those people (and I can't say I blame her).

So now I am trying to figure out how to obtain a temp guardianship to get the kiddo in school, or even if that's necessary. He's been homeschooled for the past month or so since the breakup. Any suggestions?

Elspode 04-08-2008 11:56 PM

1) Get a large bag of money.
2) Hire a lawyer.
3) Pray.

This kind of stuff is ridiculously complex, and never easy. Professional advice is highly recommended.

monster 04-09-2008 12:14 AM

Suggestion is to work with DHS, not against them.

zippyt 04-09-2008 12:33 AM

get in touch with the Juvie court in the area , they have child advcuts ( for the kids interest ) and they can and WILL make rulings STICK !!!!

Cloud 04-09-2008 08:48 AM

thanks for posting, guys. I don't know what is happening from day to day. Hate that my daughter has to go through this, but these were her choices, so she has to live with them.

kerosene 04-09-2008 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monster (Post 444625)
Suggestion is to work with DHS, not against them.

I second that one. In my experience, these people aren't out to take kids away. They are there to make sure they aren't in danger.

Cloud 04-09-2008 04:53 PM

She doesn't trust them, because she's a "hippie chick" and fears prejudice against her for that reason. She had a good friend whose daughter was taken away, for no other reason that I can tell other than the grandparents were a-holes.

She's not too rational about that subject, I'm afraid.

monster 04-09-2008 05:17 PM

But if she refuses to co-operate, that will most likely give them cause for concern. Especially if they have a prejudice against "Hippie chicks". The only way to tackle prejudice effectively is to prove that the bad stereotypes are unfounded.

You work in a law office, don't you? Can't your cow orkers advise?

Sundae 04-10-2008 02:49 PM

I am baffled by the predominance of restraining orders in US divorces, so I can't offer any real advice.

But stick in there Cloud. Surely a hands-on Grandma has to weigh in her favour.
Also, fair or not, the parent with "possession" of the child tends to be favoured. Can your daughter come & mooch off you for a while? Mother plus Grandma plus son already settled in one abode surely has to mean something?

Apologies to any fathers whose children were taken in this way - I'm not saying it's right, just that if Cloud is willing to take her Grandson anyway, at least the child will also have one parent present through the upheaval.

Cloud 04-10-2008 04:08 PM

She is cooperating--she's just fearful. She's doing everything right, but it's hard to be so far away from her.

She's decided that to send son away at this point would look like an admission she's done something wrong. But it changes from day to day. We'll see.

She calls me all upset; I get upset; I dump on my friends. That would be you guys (in part), so -- thanks for listening!

Sundae 04-10-2008 04:10 PM

Good luck Cloud - I hope I didn't imply you were doing anything wrong - it is obvious you have your grandson's best interests at heart.

Cloud 04-10-2008 04:13 PM

'sokay--

I'm just baffled at people who fight like this. Don't they realize it just makes the children's lives harder?

Sundae 04-10-2008 04:19 PM

Quote:

Don't they realize it just makes the children's lives harder?
That's what bugs me. But all you can do is the best you can.

I admit the UK system isn't perfect and there have been some huge miscarriages of justice, but another Dwellar went through a situation recently where a restraining order was applied and I was gobsmacked. Took me a while to realise it's a common factor in the US and doesn't mean spousal/ child abuse as it would here.

I'd love to hear about a country that had got it right, then I'd be happy to lobby Parliament to update our biased system.

DanaC 04-11-2008 05:00 AM

Hope it works out for your lass Cloud. Horrible situation all round. Keep us posted.

xoxoxoBruce 04-11-2008 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sundae Girl (Post 445007)
Took me a while to realize it's a common factor in the US and doesn't mean spousal/ child abuse as it would here.

The law was a good idea to combat a sad situation. Unfortunately, it's much more often misused as a weapon of spite.


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