EU Outlaws Creationism in Public Schools
 

OUTSTANDING... now it's time for the US!

http://assembly.coe.int/Main.asp?lin...7/ERES1580.htm

:D

It sounds like they are stuttering, but they have the right idea

Mighty good news.
I suppose we should teach ABOUT creationism, in the context of anthropology and comparative religion, but to TEACH creationism as an even remotely plausible account of what actually happened is just dumb.
Good on you, Europe.

well it's not dumb if you take the bible literally. :alien:

With hindsight I regret the use of the word "dumb". My apologies to all offended. There is often some remarkable cleverness deployed in clinging to creationism. I guess "wrong" was the word I wanted.

To respond: True, but taking the bible (well, Genesis) literally is the first wrong thing. Anything which follows from that, logically connected though it may be, inherits the wrongness of the first move.

To take a single book literally, and deny/ignore the overwhelming contrary evidence from all of the rest of reality... well I can understand how some people end up in that mental trap, but its just so lopsided as a way of assessing the evidence.

But no, I don't want to get into an evolution Vs. creation debate. Been there, done that, yawn. Two groups with their minds made up clubbing each other with their beliefs. Meh.

So if you want a lost word, it's yours:
:grouphug:

Wow, that was a big response. I was actually alluding to the other thread in this forum about the teacher who was fired for saying that the bible is not meant to be taken literally. :alien:

Personally, I think the bible is largely a metaphorical text however, there are many who disagree obviously.

Aaannnnnndddd... the US moves in the opposite/wrong direction. Of course.
Why don't we just teach kids that their imaginary friends in kindergarten are real and stick with that, then go ahead and ship all of our tech/science jobs overseas now, get it over with ? Same thing.

http://www.firstfreedomfirst.org/

What I sent to both the national and state level.

There is nothing wrong with the belief that God created man.

Also there are some problems with evolution and it seams that if one can not question the theory without being labeled as a fool.

No...it seems that one cannot use state schools to indoctrinate children with a creation myth, without people objecting.

Would you look like a fool if you questioned gravity? Evolution is a very sound theory will no flaws and a few small gaps, like gravity.

There has never been a theory that was taken to court or politicians before being accepted to classrooms.
It is an entirely organic process.
It is a trickle-down method.
A hypothesis is presented, or field-work is shown, lab work is done, peer-review is done to verify the work, the work is replicated and verified again, papers are published and reviewed, others repeat the work and review the original work. It begins to be taught at the PhD and graduate level, as it becomes accepted and the work is shown to be more and more accurate and lends itself to other work/fields it works its way all the way down to the elementary levels of schooling and texts... that is all.
All creationists/ID theorists have to do is present ANYTHING that does this and no one will question them.
Why are they going outside the science community to circumvent the entire process unless they have no valid claims, no valid theory?

Guess you've never heard of the Scope's trial.

That teacher did exactly what I stated, the state intervened on behalf of their imaginary friend, not the other way around.