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Griff 08-29-2007 08:22 AM

Money is illegal
 
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During a stop at a weigh station in New Mexico on August 8, Prieto made a critical mistake: He cooperated with the police, assuming that as a law-abiding individual he had nothing to fear from them.

US v. $124,700 On de novo review, we respectfully disagree and reach a different conclusion. We believe that the evidence as a whole demonstrates by a preponderance of the evidence that there was a substantial connection between the currency and a drug trafficking offense. Possession of a large sum of cash is “strong evidence” of a
connection to drug activity, $84,615 in U.S. Currency, 379 F.3d at 501-02, and Gonzolez was carrying the very large sum of $124,700. The currency was concealed in aluminum foil inside a cooler, and while an innocent traveler might theoretically carry more than $100,000 in cash across country and seek to conceal funds from
would-be thieves on the highway, we have adopted the common-sense view that bundling and concealment of large amounts of currency, combined with other suspicious circumstances, supports a connection between money and drug trafficking.


I'm thinking we've gone far enough with this whole drug war. They're assuming guilt and taking peoples stuff. It sounds eerily familiar.

Shawnee123 08-29-2007 08:25 AM

When I was a cop in Mexico, this stuff happened all the time. Who are you to pretend to understand the logistics behind these actions? You weren't there. :rolleyes:

I'm kidding, of course.

This is scary. The war on drugs is worse than just ineffective, it infringes on personal liberties.

Griff 08-29-2007 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 379673)
When I was a cop in Mexico,..

You almost had me there. I need more coffee.

Spexxvet 08-29-2007 08:28 AM

This makes me scared to carry around more than $119, 237.06

At least he wasn't tapping his toe in an airport men's room stall.

Trilby 08-29-2007 08:32 AM

Money is illegal?

Hey! What do you know--I'm totally in compliance!!

Griff 08-29-2007 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Brianna (Post 379678)
Money is illegal?

Hey! What do you know--I'm totally in compliance!!

Yay us!

Shawnee123 08-29-2007 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Griff (Post 379675)
You almost had me there. I need more coffee.

Too funny. What? I was a cop in Mexico, right after my stint as an astronaut.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Spexxvet
This makes me scared to carry around more than $119, 237.06

Carry it over here, dude. I'll keep an eye on it for you.:eyeball:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brianna
Hey! What do you know--I'm totally in compliance!!

Hey, me too, for once.

Drax 08-29-2007 02:00 PM

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we have adopted the common-sense view that bundling and concealment of large amounts of currency, combined with other suspicious circumstances, supports a connection between money and drug trafficking.
That's not common sense, that unreasonable ASSumption.

xoxoxoBruce 08-29-2007 06:26 PM

Actually the only connection they have is the dog reacted to the money. That's bullshit because the courts have already determined that most large denomination bills are drug tainted. (edit~ That's the $124k case)

A few years ago, the NJ police stopped a car with 2 guys from down in the Carolinas somewhere, on the Atlantic City Expressway. They had something like $50 or $60 thousand on them, so the money was seized and the 2 guys told if they wanted it back they would have to take the state to court and prove they got it legally. That ain't right.

rkzenrage 08-29-2007 09:20 PM

There was an idiot sheriff near here, Orange County, that did the same thing.
If you had "too much cash" and were a minority you "must be a drug dealer" and they took your money and car.
Happened for a long time.
How did they find the money, if you were not white and driving a nice car, you got pulled-over.
It was well known here before it broke in the press.
White kids used to dress-up just to mess with the nazi cops.

Griff 08-29-2007 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage (Post 380025)
It was well known here before it broke in the press.

The press really needs to step up.

rkzenrage 08-29-2007 09:36 PM

Cops need to learn it is none of their damn business why you have cash, no matter how much you have on you.

Flint 08-29-2007 10:11 PM

I need a shorthand for saying "I can't remember whether I read this in Popular Science, Discover, or Scientific American" ...

So as it turns out, the ink in American currency is like a magnet for cocaine molecules. Money circulates through many hands.

Terminator_484 09-06-2007 09:26 PM

Score another point for the police state, minus one for those actually living in the "land of the free".

wolf 09-07-2007 01:40 AM

Terminator, try actually participating in the threads rather than walking around wearing the sandwich board.

This will improve the experience for all of us.


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