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Griff 07-19-2007 10:45 AM

Remembering another illegal war
 
Brendan O'Neil has an interesting article and interview about the connections between the Bosnian conflict and Al Q. It is good to remember that the left is fully capable of inventing black and white positions in civil wars and willing to ignore national boundaries when busy moralizing.

Aliantha 07-22-2007 12:41 AM

I think both sides of the political fence are guilty of trying to create clear pictures for their particular stance.

Griff 07-22-2007 07:05 AM

True.

richlevy 07-22-2007 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Griff (Post 365658)
Brendan O'Neil has an interesting article and interview about the connections between the Bosnian conflict and Al Q. It is good to remember that the left is fully capable of inventing black and white positions in civil wars and willing to ignore national boundaries when busy moralizing.

Yes but for some reason, we seem to actually be able to pull it off.

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Noting that the U.S. military suffered no combat casualties during its involvement in Bosnia and Kosovo, Gelbard attributed frequent patrols and a highly visible military force for the astonishingly low casualty rate.

TheMercenary 07-23-2007 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by richlevy (Post 366679)
Yes but for some reason, we seem to actually be able to pull it off.

And of course IED was not part of our lexicon at the time either.

deadbeater 07-23-2007 05:17 PM

Where did IED's come from? Some came from unexploded mines dug up and modified by insurgents. The US rejected a treaty that would ban mines. Blowback's a son of a bitch, isn't it?

TheMercenary 07-23-2007 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by deadbeater (Post 367149)
Where did IED's come from? Some came from unexploded mines dug up and modified by insurgents. The US rejected a treaty that would ban mines. Blowback's a son of a bitch, isn't it?

Sorry dude, no way you can convince me that the US not supporting a treaty is in someway related to IED's. Nice try but very weak. Mines are all over Bosnia. No IED's there. Mines are all over many countries. No IED's in use there either. The two are not related.

xoxoxoBruce 07-24-2007 11:35 PM

They are however being used as materiel in Iraq.

TheMercenary 07-25-2007 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 367778)
They are however being used as materiel in Iraq.

No argument there. But it is not related to some treaty we did or did not sign.

xoxoxoBruce 07-25-2007 05:50 PM

True, there were already zillions lurking.

deadbeater 07-25-2007 09:33 PM

Had the Coalition soldiers worked to gather up the mines instead of guarding oil wells, the insurgents will have to find something else to use as weapons.

Griff 07-26-2007 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by richlevy (Post 366679)
Yes but for some reason, we seem to actually be able to pull it off.

Even so, we helped build Al Q. There is no pure victory.

TheMercenary 07-27-2007 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by deadbeater (Post 368102)
Had the Coalition soldiers worked to gather up the mines instead of guarding oil wells, the insurgents will have to find something else to use as weapons.

BS, you go into a mine field and gather them up. You don't "gather up" mines. The areas that needed to be guarded were the stockpiles in warehouses.


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