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Spexxvet 05-08-2007 11:50 AM

Illegal Handguns
 
Michael Nutter, candidate for mayor of Philadelphia, is proposing on-the-spot searches for illegal handguns. From Here:

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Proven tactics such as stop and frisk and aggressively enforcing arrest warrants will help to get illegal guns off the street and also the people who are more inclined to use them.
Is this something gun advocates would support?

glatt 05-08-2007 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 341589)
Michael Nutter, candidate for mayor of Philadelphia, is proposing on-the-spot searches for illegal handguns. From Here:



Is this something gun advocates would support?

Yeah! Frisk everybody. Make checkpoints on all streets too. And cameras. Lots of cameras. Might as well issue papers to everyone too, you know, to keep track of them. Actually, tattoos would be better, since you can't transfer them. Use special ink to cut down on forgery.

We'll be safe.

Happy Monkey 05-08-2007 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 341589)
Is this something gun advocates would support?

I think that's somthing that few gun control advocates would even support.

busterb 05-08-2007 12:23 PM

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Michael Nutter, candidate for mayor of Philadelphia
Wonder if he's kin to the cowboy mayor of Jackson,ms.
http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pb...melton_archive

TheMercenary 05-08-2007 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 341603)
Yeah! Frisk everybody. Make checkpoints on all streets too. And cameras. Lots of cameras. Might as well issue papers to everyone too, you know, to keep track of them. Actually, tattoos would be better, since you can't transfer them. Use special ink to cut down on forgery.

We'll be safe.

Make the jews wear yellow stars and the gays wear pink triangles. How about something for illegal aliens.

Undertoad 05-08-2007 12:51 PM

Proposing uncontitutional things that sound tough is a political trick to get elected and not actually have to change anything or spend any money. "Well I tried but the stupid courts held me back! But I'm still the toughest on crime ever!!!"

Similarly, see flag burning amendment and gay marriage amendment. Nothing changed except perceptions. It's fake leadership.

Urbane Guerrilla 05-10-2007 11:28 PM

On balance, no. Society-wide, the best rebuttal to an illegally carried gun is one or more legally carried ones. It suppresses crime and follows the Constitution's provisions for individual rights.

Nor does the citizen necessarily have to jump through legal hoops to carry. Case in point: Vermont, where there is no permit of any sort required for concealed carry. Even with their population density increasing, what with all the immigrants from Massachusetts, can you recall all those massacres of Vermonters in bars, parks, ball games, and traffic accidents?

Vermont shows us the proper use of arms is quite independent of any permitting process.

Ibby 05-10-2007 11:30 PM

Which is why, as everyone knows, Vermont is the coolest state ever - and definitely the most liberal.

xoxoxoBruce 05-11-2007 04:23 AM

It's a nice place to visit, but....

TheMercenary 05-11-2007 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 342472)
It's a nice place to visit, but....

but... to cold in the winter. After being stationed in Hawaii for 3 years we vowed we would never live where we had to shovel snow again.

Urbane Guerrilla 05-17-2007 11:04 AM

Darn good syrup, though.

Pie 05-17-2007 11:51 AM

I actually like snow. Maybe I should move up north till I get sick of it. :right:

Rexmons 05-17-2007 11:53 AM

if only there was some kind of law preventing illegal search or seizure.

Spexxvet 05-17-2007 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rexmons (Post 344148)
if only there was some kind of law preventing illegal search or seizure.

Has anyone heard of this thing caled "probable cause". What is that, anyway? :cool:

Happy Monkey 05-17-2007 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 344169)
Has anyone heard of this thing caled "probable cause".

Not the CIA director.


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