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bluesdave 12-12-2006 05:48 PM

Rise in California temperatures likely to affect crops
 
LIVERMORE, Calif. — Increasing temperatures in California during the next 45 years could negatively affect the amount of almonds, walnuts, oranges, avocados and table grapes that Americans put on their tables.

According to new research in the journal Agricultural and Forest Meteorology, production losses in some of California’s most popular crops could be as high as 40 percent by mid-century.

Read the full story here.

Aliantha 12-12-2006 05:52 PM

Of course, as farmers are aware of this possible problem, they could start looking into hardier strains for those particular fruits etc...or they could just leave it then cry poor when what has been predicted occures.

barefoot serpent 12-12-2006 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bluesdave
table grapes.

and there are the wine grapes!

bluesdave 12-12-2006 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha
Of course, as farmers are aware of this possible problem, they could start looking into hardier strains for those particular fruits etc

They do, but that is not always possible. Grapes and avocados have a very long lead time time (up to 10 years), before they start producing reasonable fruit. Also it is not as simple as finding a hardier strain when you are growing food for the consumer market. It is also not always practical for a farmer to swap from one crop to another. They often have hundreds of thousands of dollars invested in their existing equipment. A new crop often means new equipment (or at least modification of their existing equipment and irrigation systems).

Having said that, there are people who insist on growing crops that are not suitable for their geographic area. They find out the hard way, I'm afraid. The growing of cotton and rice in the driest continent on Earth (Australia), has always irritated me. For those who do not know, rice and cotton require huge quantities of water.

You also have to take into account that many farmers have generations of history (ie. the same family owning the same land for generations). We have to convince them that the climate is changing, and that they must too. After some initial resistance, many come around to more sensible thinking. You can never convince 100% of people.

Aliantha 12-12-2006 06:55 PM

All the points you've made seem pretty much common sense to me Blues, but then I've always wondered why people would want to grow cotton around Goondiwindi!

History has proven that new crops can be developed to suit different climates. eg. new wheat strains developed to suit Australian conditions.

Of course to grow a new avoccado tree to maturity can take up to 10yrs. Usually around 7 to produce fruit for grafted trees, which in most cases, farm crops are. It's the same with citrus as you're more than likely aware.

The point I was trying to make is that these farmers have a fair amount of warning and yet, many will choose to ignore the information they've been given and then ask for assistance from the government when their crops fail. Much like farmers in Australia are fond of doing.

Aliantha 12-12-2006 06:57 PM

So, do the maths, and it's fairly clear that if farmers start looking now, they should have at least 20yrs up their sleaves even if it takes them 20yrs to find the right crop.

Urbane Guerrilla 12-12-2006 08:05 PM

An increase in average temps around Ventura County would mean smaller chances of losing a citrus crop to frost. This may be why I haven't seen as many citrus orchards being ripped out and converted to row crops like strawberries the last couple-three years. Strawberries have still displaced citrus as the number one crop, though. Easier to make a profit, and this county gets three crops a year.

Tonchi 12-13-2006 02:24 AM

At the rate we are going here in Fresno County, it will be a non-issue. By that time we will have paved over all the farmland and filled it with hideous overpriced housing developments anyway :(

xoxoxoBruce 12-13-2006 08:53 PM

Meh, as long as there's Soylent Green and Diet Pepsi, were cool.;)

rkzenrage 12-14-2006 01:06 AM

Global warming... HEY YOU! LOOK OVER HERE!

Urbane Guerrilla 12-15-2006 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonchi
At the rate we are going here in Fresno County, it will be a non-issue. By that time we will have paved over all the farmland and filled it with hideous overpriced housing developments anyway :(

And raising parking lots for the export market. "...And it's twenty tons of top-quality Peruvian asphalt, worth fifteen thousand dollars -- on the street!"

Didn't I just hear of some smartass suggesting a nuclear winter would fix the global warming? :cool: :3eye: :3_eyes:


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