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classicman 04-09-2009 06:12 PM

Obama to seek $83.4 billion for Iraq, Afghan wars
 
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WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama asked Congress on Thursday for $83.4 billion for U.S. military and diplomatic operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, pressing for special troop funding that he opposed two years ago when he was senator and George W. Bush was president.

Obama is also requesting $350 million in new funding to upgrade security along the U.S.-Mexico border and to combat narcoterrorists, along with another $400 million in counterinsurgency aid to Pakistan.

"Nearly 95 percent of these funds will be used to support our men and women in uniform as they help the people of Iraq to take responsibility for their own future — and work to disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaida in Pakistan and Afghanistan," Obama wrote in a letter to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif.
Interesting article.

TGRR 04-09-2009 07:36 PM

Smedley Butler was right.

piercehawkeye45 04-10-2009 07:56 AM

Change!!....

When??

Shawnee123 04-10-2009 08:10 AM

Presto-chango?

Is that what you were expecting?

piercehawkeye45 04-10-2009 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 554662)
Presto-chango?

Is that what you were expecting?


Shawnee123 04-10-2009 08:26 AM

Shoot, I'll have to wait until I get home to watch it. :)

Urbane Guerrilla 04-11-2009 01:35 AM

Welp, there's your change for you. Obama the candidate is finding out what Obama the President has to actually do to act in the nation's interest, and humanity's not so incidentally.

I'd rather hoped he would.

TheMercenary 04-11-2009 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 554523)
Interesting article.

Imagine that. Funny how a person running for president can change his tune after he is read-in on all the facts concerning security and national defense issues.

classicman 04-11-2009 11:28 AM

You mean after he gets a chance to make an informed decision? I'm actually ok with the banter beforehand. I just hope Obama is smart enough to make the right call after he gets "all the info"

Was this in the budget or is this an additional expense not already accounted for?

TheMercenary 04-11-2009 11:35 AM

Separate budget. Not accounted for previously in discussions about the economy but it has been looming large on the edge of the room.

classicman 04-11-2009 11:42 AM

So we are adding this? After all the talk of how wrong Bush was to not include the war in his budget, this looks an awful lot like the same thing.

TheMercenary 04-11-2009 11:43 AM

Yes, added or adding as the case may be.

Redux 04-11-2009 12:32 PM

I dont understand the issue here.

Yes, this supplemental to the 09 budget is not in the budget that was adopted last year. 09 was Bush's last budget and did not include war funding (none of his budgets ever included war funding) and Bush's last supplemental (non-budget request) was only through May.

Starting with the 2010 budget, Iraq and Afghanistan war costs are budgeted. That is the difference.

The plan for withdrawing most troops from Iraq has been extended from the 16 month campaign pledge to 18 months, after consulting with the commanders in the field. It could very well change again, depending on conditions on the ground.

I still dont like doubling down in Afghanistan, but at least there is a plan now.

TGRR 04-12-2009 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 555204)
Imagine that. Funny how a person running for president can change his tune after he is read-in on all the facts concerning security and national defense issues.

Or after he's been taken to visit "the Kennedy Room".

TGRR 04-12-2009 12:14 AM

Also, why the hell would a senator vote for anything, if he isn't told why he's being asked to vote for it? Any senator that would vote for something without knowing the facts should be run out of congress. Secrecy be damned.

Just saying.


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