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Undertoad 03-13-2007 11:05 AM

March 13, 2007: Horrid skin condition
 
http://cellar.org/2007/EasternEurope...Condition1.jpg

Spacecow finds this really bizarre one at the blog of radio station WFMU. The story:
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A friend of mine has a relative who is a missionary in Eastern Europe. He recently shared photographs and the story of a man he is caring for, who has an extremely bizarre skin condition. The man has keratin-like matter growing out of the skin on hands and feet, which started when he was young, and very slowly continues to spread and grow. The areas begin as skin lesions, and the matter sprouts from those spots. The growths are very difficult to remove, and the man has so far just had to learn to live with it. There are a few medical precedents to this man's case, but nothing is certain until more tests are done. In the meantime, the missionary is helping to make life easier for the man.
The condition is described as possibly being "Lewandowsky-Lutz syndrome":
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A generalized skin disease characterised by multiple papillomavirus-induced scaly macules anywhere on the skin and papules on the back of the hand. The disease is considered to be a precancerous form of epithelial nevi. At 20-30 years lesions which have been exposed to sunlight are likely to develop into malignity and to Morbus Bowen or Bowen’s carcinoma and then into squamous cell carcinoma. The general condition of the patient is good. Affects both sexes. Onset at any age, but usually in childhood, with more rapid development. Probably an autosomal recessive trait.
http://cellar.org/2007/EasternEurope...Condition2.jpg

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http://cellar.org/2007/EasternEurope...Condition6.jpg

Kitsune 03-13-2007 11:08 AM

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Mmm...

Shawnee123 03-13-2007 11:26 AM

There goes my lunch. :right:

That pic reminds me of this.

:eek:

Sheldonrs 03-13-2007 11:34 AM

(note to self-when the headline reads "horrid skin condition", DON'T OPEN IT!!!)

glatt 03-13-2007 11:35 AM

:vomit:

Dude. It's lunch time on the East Coast.

glatt 03-13-2007 11:42 AM

OK. I closed the window and finished my lunch. For some reason it was the foot picture that grossed me out the most. The others were so alien that they didn't quite register as gross.

I feel for this poor guy. Not only does he have to live with this affliction, it's pre-cancerous and is likely to kill him.

Hopefully these photos shooting across the web will result in some dermatologist somewhere taking care of this guy for the bragging rights.

Dypok 03-13-2007 11:48 AM

I'd cut off my hands.

Flint 03-13-2007 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dypok (Post 322718)
I'd cut off my hands.

ATLANTA — Two Georgia men survived a gruesome suicide attempt Friday after cutting their own arms off with a saw, reported Atlanta's Journal Constitution.

The 40 and 41-year-old men managed to remove three of their four arms, cutting them about six inches above their wrists, Atlanta Police Major Lane Hagin told the Journal.

Griff 03-13-2007 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 322717)
Hopefully these photos shooting across the web will result in some dermatologist somewhere taking care of this guy for the bragging rights.

That was initially pretty hard to look at let alone work on but dermatologists must be hardened to all sorts of things.

The guy looks pretty fit, like he does physical work, but I can't imagine he has a lot of functionality left in his hands.

xoxoxoBruce 03-13-2007 04:02 PM

I wonder how long it took from the first sign to this mess? Also, did he try cutting them off in the beginning?

Obviously, somebody must be caring for him, wonder if he's married? Imagine having that happen to your parent, knowing it's hereditary. :eek:
Would you have kids?

SteveDallas 03-13-2007 04:09 PM

That's scary--it's so bad it looks like it can't possibly be real.

glatt 03-13-2007 04:22 PM

The link said that about a decade ago he burned off some that were on his feet, and they didn't come back. He had that treatment about a decade ago, and let it go for a decade until it got to this point and the missionary found him. I wonder why he wouldn't keep cutting and cauterizing the things if it was successful. Even if that procedure was painful, it has to be better than living like this.

lumberjim 03-13-2007 04:31 PM

how the heck did he get the sweater on? I wonder what super powers came with the affliction? and what title? Barnicle Boy? The Tickler?

fargon 03-13-2007 05:49 PM

Having suffered from a chronic and debilitating skin condition for 30 years, I have nothing but empathy for the gentleman. The pain and embarrassment from this is overwhelming. This man needs your compassion, not your jokes.

xoxoxoBruce 03-13-2007 06:18 PM

I don't think either will affect him one way or the other, though. :headshake

lumberjim 03-13-2007 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by fargon (Post 322807)
Having suffered from a chronic and debilitating skin condition for 30 years, I have nothing but empathy for the gentleman. The pain and embarrassment from this is overwhelming. This man needs your compassion, not your jokes.

the world needs my jokes to help deal with the grief they feel for you and others like you. you poor, poor man. here, let me hold you.

Kingswood 03-13-2007 07:43 PM

It looks an awful lot like the coating on Hot 'N' Spicy chicken from KFC. I don't think I will ever eat Hot 'N' Spicy again without thinking of those hands.

Aliantha 03-13-2007 07:46 PM

Thanks for that thought Kingswood. Now you've also ruined it for the rest of us!

monster 03-13-2007 07:47 PM

That poor man. :( It seems he felt that whilst cauterizing successfully got rid of the old growths, new ones grew faster afterwards. kind like pulling up a dandelion but not getting all of the root. Suddently my eczema doesn't seem so bad.

HungLikeJesus 03-13-2007 08:48 PM

Finger lickin' good.

Aliantha 03-13-2007 08:51 PM

Oh FFS! Just stop. I'm not opening this thread again.

ilikecheese 03-13-2007 09:43 PM

where does this dude buy gloves?
 
socks seem implausible (lots of those damn ctachy threads)
and bowling (as the keeper of the book of armaments would say) is "right out".

lumberjim 03-13-2007 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ilikecheese (Post 322901)
socks seem implausible (lots of those damn ctachy threads)
and bowling (as the keeper of the book of armaments would say) is "right out".

i like ilikechees already

lumberjim 03-13-2007 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 322890)
Oh FFS! Just stop. I'm not opening this thread again.

sheesh...it's not like he's a rapist or something

KARYN 03-16-2007 01:00 PM

That's Disgusting with a capital "D"

DanaC 03-16-2007 02:19 PM

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Suddently my eczema doesn't seem so bad.
Ditto.

AZjanny 03-17-2007 10:17 AM

How does he wipe his butt?

bluraven 03-18-2007 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 322856)
That poor man. :( It seems he felt that whilst cauterizing successfully got rid of the old growths, new ones grew faster afterwards. kind like pulling up a dandelion but not getting all of the root. Suddently my eczema doesn't seem so bad.

I have eczema too and was thinking the same thing! :eek:

Johnald chaffinch 04-14-2007 02:59 PM

he's about 40 and still sharing a bed with his brother. imagine them being in a small bed with you :S

Mayor of Shekou 04-16-2007 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by AZjanny (Post 323850)
How does he wipe his butt?

Dunno, but scratching it sure isn't a problem:sweat:

NSFW 05-19-2007 01:26 AM

I just stumbled on a followup to this story, the guy is getting some treatment:

http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2007/0...nary_enco.html

Happy Monkey 11-17-2007 09:42 AM

A different guy with the same (or a similar) condition, referenced here.


Gravdigr 11-20-2007 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by AZjanny (Post 323850)
How does he wipe his butt?

Very carefully!!!!!


Also, I'm guessing that there's not much in the way of masturbation going on...:headshake

orthodoc 11-20-2007 09:05 PM

There was an article about this man (I think it's the same man) on Foxnews recently (www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,812103,0.html). The good news is , there may be a treatment. I hope so.

DanaC 11-21-2007 06:23 AM

Never fails to amaze me just how spectacularly wrong the human body can go. The tiniest flaw at the smallest level and boom....your life's marked in bold and underlined.

Kitsune 11-21-2007 08:35 AM

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Jackalope bunny feels his pain.

ZenGum 11-21-2007 09:01 AM

What amazes me is that it is just a regular wart virus finding someone whose immune system is vulnerable to it.

:checks anti-virus software:

It also seems odd that it attacks the extremities - hands, feet, and head. Anyone care to guess why?

Clodfobble 11-21-2007 10:08 PM

I don't know, but a lot of different skin conditions do that, especially if you add in the groin area.

Andoria 11-22-2007 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 409260)
What amazes me is that it is just a regular wart virus finding someone whose immune system is vulnerable to it.

:checks anti-virus software:

It also seems odd that it attacks the extremities - hands, feet, and head. Anyone care to guess why?

As a scientist, if I had to take a wild and completely uneducated guess based purely on guesswork backed up by some college?

The body, as I'm sure everyone knows this much at least, grows in stages.

You start with a single cell; which starts its rapid dividing. If it avoids an overdose of Plan B, it eventually develops into a blastocyst and then gastrualizes (? too uncoffeed to check my own spelling). So, then what we have is the beginning of differentiation as the cells begin to move about to where they're going to end up in the finalized organism. Not quite 'stem cells' but not quite "Cell #228347 in the ring finger of the right hand".

So you have a circle, a dented in circle, a neural crest starts, etc, and you have a head, a 'body' and a 'tail' .. then arms and legs start to develop, then fingers and toes (and dare I say genitals). Now if this is some sort of pappilomavirus transmitted from mother to son, as was the one thought, he was infected in vivo, I guess.. autosomal, again, the same issue. So the hands/feet/etc are the 'least differentiated' cells of our bodies timewise-line, even though with people, we can't cut off an arm and have it grow back (though with some lizards and the like, it can, as the cells can defifferentiate again and grow a new limb, though I suspect if you cut out a non-vital section of their torso (Say chest muscle), the same effect would not occur).

(takes a big breath) SO that's one reason.

Also this is a keratinized disorder - keratin and keratinized cells hang out in the skin, but most keratin production is likely highly concentrated in hands and feet where the body makes fingernails and toenails. Let's just be happy this doesn't seem to spread randomly to hair follicles (at least not ones far beyond the hands and feet), or worse than just looking ugly, this poor guy would be dead.

So.. no wonder he was whisked off in an ambulance. Some labs would kill for that kind of a phenomenon to study.

ZenGum 11-22-2007 11:13 AM

Interesting...
I'm not certain about this guy but the Indonesian "Tree-Man" guy we also had recently was definitely adult-onset, having an infected cut while working.
I was thinking more in terms of less blood-flow to the extremities and more skin/volume ratio, meaning fewer white blood cells to fight more bugs.
The keratin point is a good one; especially if we include facial hair.
Hmmmmm....

bluecuracao 11-22-2007 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Kitsune (Post 409242)
Jackalope bunny feels his pain.

Oh my, I didn't know jackalopes were real.

morie 11-29-2007 09:09 AM

I feel sorry for the guy but does anyone know how I can give that condition to another person or people? Specifically my in-laws.

Morie
www.anthology.page.tl

Griff 07-03-2008 07:34 AM

Damn you SDRTG! I didn't need to see that again. Of course that didn't stop me from bumping it for the rest of you.

Flint 07-03-2008 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Kitsune (Post 409242)
Jackalope bunny feels his pain.

OMG jackalopes are real.

sweetwater 07-13-2008 06:37 PM

Just noticed a description of "My Shocking Story" on TLC tonight - 7 PM Central - that says "An Indonesian of a remote village has incredible rootlike growths on his body." Sounds like this guy, doesn't it?

SPUCK 07-14-2008 04:12 AM

Can we PLEASE leave this miserable thread die!!!

I took me weeks to get it out of my mind. Every time I think of it the bile rises in my throat.

Man just let it go... PLEASE...

&*^^%)*%^&!! Dammit.

spudcon 07-14-2008 07:28 AM

Just change the channel. And try not to think about the recipe.


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