A Spanish Inquisition
 

Only recently have the leaks about corruption in highest levels of government started flowing everywhere. Just another example of a story that could not be documented do to lack of information.
http://www.borkowski.co.uk/archives/mark/1212196.jpg He was imprisioned for six months - tortured - because, as neighborhood mayor, We only know of his story because Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch are slowly getting to a truth that George Jr hopes you forget. Clearly enlistedmen planned to torture prisoners. They brought dog collars and knowledge of how to shock people without killing them. George Jr had absolutely no relationship to Major General Miller who was transfered by the administration from Guantanamo to not teach torture in Abu Ghraid. General Miller is seeking early retirement from the military - maybe to get out and get his pension before more leaks document his relationship to both torture and the George Jr administration?

The story of Ali Shalal is in 11 Mar 2006 NY Times as Symbol of Abu Ghraib Seeks to Spare Others His Nightmare Also look at his business card.

Or lessons on how to win a Crusade
 

I am often struck by fringe extremists who cite Al Jazeera as anti-American. You could not be - by definition - more patriotic American if doing what Al Jazeera does. And example from the NY Times of 11 Mar 2006: Is it an accident that Al Jazeera facitlities both in Iraq and in Afghanistan were attacked by American planes? One missile striking that building only on the floor where Al Jazeera was located.

A historical question, or my own bullshit you decide. in April '79 why didnt The peaceful Moslems take over the Soviet Embassy in stead of ours. The Soviet Union had a history of persicuiting Moslems. They didn't take over that embassy because the peaceful moslem extreemists would be looking at Red Army Tanks within 48 hours.

As far as I'm concerned Moslem Extreemists are a bunch of murdering asslickers, and need to be fed thier own cocks, if you can find them.

Read a book, fargon.

We knocked off their elected government in 1953.

So

From the NY Times story.

What's ironic is that when Americans try to do this they get killed.

In one of his many visits to the region, maybe President Bush should tour the prisons. They are after all, his responsibility and legacy, just as they were for Saddam Hussein.

Lest we forget that these wonderful and peaceful people cut the heads off people they kidnap.

Its alright, though, because God wants them to do it. It helps bring people closer to divine enlightenment, or some bullshit like that. :headshake

They were making a run at building a modern liberal state, not an ideal government but better than they had. We thwarted their attempt, empowering the nut job Islamists. In their minds we represent oppression not freedom. I can't get over you radical interventionists and your fantasies about our virtuous foreign policy. Are the radical Islamists evil? Of course. Is a policy that empowers them evil? Absolutely.

Fargon? A radical interventionist? I thought he was just a dirty old man, like me. :D

I suspect that Fargon, like most of the American public (me included) really don't have a handle on all the shit the US has had a hand in, beyond the evening news on TV. You know the networks weren't very good at giving background or tying different events together in a easily understood pattern.

It wasn't even until Nixon, that we knew what scumbags most of them are.
Sure we knew they were washing each others backs and those of major contributors, but that was internal.....family business.
But we didn't really understand how badly they were fucking with the neighbors, since school days, if then.

Yah, I gotta watch my tone. sorry

I am sorry if I come off as a right wing jerk, thats cuz I am.

Back in the 80' I had the pleasure of meeting, and working with some Iranins that came here after the fall of the Shaw. All of them with one exeption said that the Shaw and the US where the best thing ever to happen to Iran, we prevented a civil war and allowed the country and people to prosper without violance. The Shaws secret police prevented what is happining in Iraq rite now.

The Islamic uprising was started by Kohminie and his ilk by subverting the collage kids and rabble rousing amoung the welfare class.

Sorry Fargon. I didn't mean to speak for you. Well, I did but I shouldn't have.

No problema Bruce, I am such an un educated boob that I can use all hulp I kin get.

We did, eh? Well, we DID help with Iran's nuclear program back then, but we won't talk about THAT. The Shah was just the bit of a tyrant and the human rights abuses under his regime would have made even Saddam slightly jealous. Remember SARVAK? Nah, why would you?

And the "welfare class" was comprised mostly of displaced agricultural workers who had the audacity to demand jobs that paid enough to provide them and their families with housing and food, but I guess you and your buddies were busy gambling with the Shah's sister and living the high life in Monte Carlo, so you missed reading the fine print.

HOOrah! :headshake