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Griff 04-01-2020 06:49 AM

Census?
 
They're fucking it up aren't they? I say this as someone who received no mailing from the Fed Gov.

JuancoRocks 04-01-2020 08:06 AM

I received two within 4 days of each other after I had responded online.

JR

xoxoxoBruce 04-01-2020 09:16 AM

Same here, mailing, responded online, another mailing, but this second one said if I didn't respond online I'd get yet another mailing with the option of responding by mail.

Someone who applied to work for the census told me they were being hired to go to any address that didn't respond online or by mail.

BigV 04-01-2020 09:43 AM

Replied online, three postal pieces arrived, that seems standard.

glatt 04-01-2020 09:43 AM

https://2020census.gov/en/response-rates.html

I wonder what the story is in Peurto Rico? I know they are in bad shape but an under 1% response rate seems like there is a problem with getting mailings out.

Flint 04-01-2020 01:18 PM

This Census is going to be a inaccurate clusterƒuck. Count the ways-- 1) we have an inept, "ant-Government" executive branch in office, 2) a global pandemic in full swing, and 3) a Latinx population that has been mortally terrified for the last four years. In my wildest imagination I can't see a way for it to go smoothly.

BigV 04-01-2020 07:03 PM

Smooth is relative. If it's not part of "The Narrative" from President Trump it's not likely to be noticed - - smooth.

Accuracy is not subjective, and I feel certain the census will be pretty inaccurate.

Urbane Guerrilla 04-10-2020 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint (Post 1049934)
. . . 3) a Latinx population that has been mortally terrified for the last four years. . .

I live right in the middle of a downright thick on the ground Hispanic population: local observation over four years shows "mortally terrified" does not describe them. There *are* those who insist you believe they're in a state of mortal terror -- but these people are very blockheaded and psychotically tendentious. Yet... look at you, believing their every superstitious word. Critical thinking, mister Flint??

Critical thinking is why I've stopped voting Democratic. Critical thinking is valuable. The Donkey Party, not so much.

Nine questions on the 2020 Census took rather less than nine minutes to answer online. 'Cluster' is not the word I'd use.

Flint 04-14-2020 02:13 PM

Can't argue with anecdotal evidence, amirite?

Luce 04-14-2020 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint (Post 1050905)
Can't argue with anecdotal evidence, amirite?

I know a guy and he knows some guys.

Urbane Guerrilla 04-19-2020 06:56 PM

Not when there are enough anecdotes to run statistical analyses on.

It's shaky ground, trying to apply medical-science protocols to social science questions. If you were borne out, I'd see a lot more nervous Californians than I do. And tell me -- have we seen Mexicans and Other Than Mexicans fleeing south of the Rio Grande in their tens of millions? -- we have not.

"Social Science" is a questionable term; other phrasings may be more accurate.

Happy Monkey 04-22-2020 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla (Post 1051187)
Not when there are enough anecdotes to run statistical analyses on.

Uh, yes. Even then. The plural of anecdote is not data.

Urbane Guerrilla 04-22-2020 04:12 PM

What part of "run statistical analysis" did you not internalise?

I'm on-scene. You are not. Am I going to believe some last-ditch anticonservative fanatic, or dismiss him as being nutty as a PayDay bar? -- or on the gripping hand believe my own unimpaired eyes and ears?

Urbane Guerrilla 04-22-2020 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint (Post 1049934)
Count the ways-- 1) we have an inept, "ant-Government" executive branch in office . . .

Spoken like a true-blue Statist. The Nazis were such, and the Stalinists, all the Marxist-Leninists, the Maoists, far and away the Juche North Koreans, the Senderistas, the Maduristas... all the followers of the lesser ways.

It is not necessary that you keep company with the likes of these. I am proud that I do not, having self-respect.

Happy Monkey 04-22-2020 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla (Post 1051407)
What part of "run statistical analysis" did you not internalise?

You don't run statistical analysis on anecdotes, because they are self-selecting. You run statistical analysis on surveys that deliberately get a wide variety of responses.

xoxoxoBruce 04-22-2020 11:26 PM

He's blinded by the light of his own grandeur. :rolleyes:

Urbane Guerrilla 04-24-2020 07:41 PM

I am on-scene. You are not.

Their ethnicity concerns no one of responsibility. Their, ah, casual attitude about official permissions rather does. It's not even villainy driving them, but a complete want of opportunity in the class stratified societies down south. Subsistence farming isn't making it. Since the pandemic, border crossings have gone to about zilch.

Urbane Guerrilla 04-24-2020 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1051428)
He's blinded by the light of his own grandeur. :rolleyes:

Use a carp. You can blind yourself with it.

xoxoxoBruce 04-25-2020 12:23 AM

Use you? No thanks, you're too fishy.

glatt 05-14-2020 11:35 AM

I have received and completed two US Census snap surveys in as many weeks. They are trying to track Covid impacts, and the questions are pretty good. Interestingly, the questions have not changed, but my answers have. They even ask about mental health stuff with a handful of questions about how much you worry, if you find enjoyment in doing stuff and things like that.

I left the links in there because I bet they don't work now that I have taken the survey
A Message from the Director, U.S. Census Bureau

To continue to support the nation’s recovery, we are again collecting timely information on how the coronavirus pandemic has affected people’s lives and finances. We are asking you to participate in another round of the Household Pulse Survey, even if your situation has not changed. This survey is being conducted over the next five days only.

https://covid.census.gov/jfe/form/SV...2gEGKwi1g934S9

Data from this survey will measure the effects of coronavirus (COVID-19) on individuals, families, and communities across the country. Your participation will help policymakers direct assistance to the people and places that need it most. While your participation is voluntary, it is important.

The Household Pulse Survey is available via the following link:

https://covid.census.gov/jfe/form/SV...2gEGKwi1g934S9

Due Date: May 18, 2020

Thank you in advance for your time and participation.

Sincerely,

Steven D. Dillingham
Director
U.S. Census Bureau

Luce 05-22-2020 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla (Post 1051407)
What part of "run statistical analysis" did you not internalise?

I'm on-scene. You are not. Am I going to believe some last-ditch anticonservative fanatic, or dismiss him as being nutty as a PayDay bar? -- or on the gripping hand believe my own unimpaired eyes and ears?



You quit pooping on Jerry Pournelle.

glatt 06-11-2020 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt (Post 1052606)
I have received and completed two US Census snap surveys in as many weeks. ...

And the data is in.

US data from Covid pulse survey I took for four weeks.

Griff 06-12-2020 06:32 AM

Rough sledding. Our housing crisis worsens


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