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xoxoxoBruce 10-13-2009 01:21 AM
Oct 13, 2009: Floaters
 
Has Al Gore got you Freaked?
Afraid to go to sleep, for fear the ocean will rise up and drown you?
Is that what's troubling you, Bunky?

Cue brass band
Well never fear, help is here, we've got the perfect solution for you, Bunky!
It floats, it's got a moat, you'll be high and dry... Holland high... & dry, with...
drumroll The Citadel: Europe’s First Floating Apartment Complex.

http://cellar.org/2009/floater.jpg

Quote:
Olthuis is responsible for a number of floating residences around the world and he thinks that we should stop trying to contain water and learn to live with it. The New Water and the Citadel projects are an attempt to embrace water in the Netherlands, which is almost completely composed of wetlands. The project will be built on a polder, a recessed area below sea level where flood waters settle from heavy rains. There are almost 3500 polders in the Netherlands, and almost all of them are continually pumped dry to keep flood waters from destroying nearby homes and buildings. The New Water Project will purposely allow the polder to flood with water and all the buildings will be perfectly suited to float on top of the rising and falling water.
It will be 25% more energy efficient, because it'll use the water for cooling the building.
Maybe they'll have a fish farm for food, too.;)

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SPUCK 10-13-2009 05:23 AM
Mommy. Johnny pulled out the cork!

ZenGum 10-13-2009 06:25 AM
Well he knows he's not allowed to put his finger in the dike any more.

wolf 10-13-2009 07:37 AM
That one time he tried, she gave him a concussion.

Sheldonrs 10-13-2009 08:40 AM
And when you wash the dishes, whatever you do, don't call it a sink!

jinx 10-13-2009 09:34 AM
Do they have mosquitos over there?

Shawnee123 10-13-2009 09:39 AM
*packing bags for big move*

newtimer 10-13-2009 10:03 AM
Why I don't believe in the religion of 'global' warming:
1) Fill a glass halfway with salt water. (A 3% salt solution, if you can manage it);
2) Put an ice cube in the water. Mark the current water level on the side of the glass;
3) Let the ice cube melt (via hair dryer, microwave oven, window sill, etc. It doesn't matter how);
4) Notice that the new water level has not gone up after the ice melted. If you have a large enough glass and water sample, you might even notice that the water level has gone DOWN slightly.

This, fellow bipeds, is SCIENCE. Anybody can replicate this experiment. Every time, the results will be the same. Yet Al Gore and his whiny followers continue to ignore science and push their contrary religion on us.

Also, I'm curious about the plumbing for the floating condo. Please tell me they've got some flexible tubes that tether the building with the mainland, for delivering fresh water in and carrying the waste out. Oh, please tell me that it's not an experiment in self-sufficiency where the fresh water gets pumped from the pond that the nasty stuff gets flushed into.

Sheldonrs 10-13-2009 10:22 AM
And don't come a knockin' if this complex is a rockin'!

xoxoxoBruce 10-13-2009 10:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by newtimer (Post 600790)
Why I don't believe in the religion of 'global' warming:
1) Fill a glass halfway with salt water. (A 3% salt solution, if you can manage it);
2) Put an ice cube in the water. Mark the current water level on the side of the glass;
3) Let the ice cube melt (via hair dryer, microwave oven, window sill, etc. It doesn't matter how);
4) Notice that the new water level has not gone up after the ice melted. If you have a large enough glass and water sample, you might even notice that the water level has gone DOWN slightly.
That's fine for the Arctic, where the ice is floating on the water. But the Antarctic ice is on land, as are the glaciers in Greenland, and around the world.

Hillrick 10-13-2009 12:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by newtimer (Post 600790)
Why I don't believe in the religion of 'global' warming:
1) Fill a glass halfway with salt water. (A 3% salt solution, if you can manage it);
2) Put an ice cube in the water. Mark the current water level on the side of the glass;
3) Let the ice cube melt (via hair dryer, microwave oven, window sill, etc. It doesn't matter how);
4) Notice that the new water level has not gone up after the ice melted. If you have a large enough glass and water sample, you might even notice that the water level has gone DOWN slightly.


Not just in agreement with xoxoxoxbruce here but adding that the inhabitants of several South seas islands that are disappearing beneath the waves would like to know if you mind them moving in with you...

dar512 10-13-2009 12:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by newtimer (Post 600790)
Why I don't believe in the religion of 'global' warming:
1) Fill a glass halfway with salt water. (A 3% salt solution, if you can manage it);
2) Put an ice cube in the water. Mark the current water level on the side of the glass;
3) Let the ice cube melt (via hair dryer, microwave oven, window sill, etc. It doesn't matter how);
4) Notice that the new water level has not gone up after the ice melted. If you have a large enough glass and water sample, you might even notice that the water level has gone DOWN slightly.

This, fellow bipeds, is SCIENCE. Anybody can replicate this experiment. Every time, the results will be the same. Yet Al Gore and his whiny followers continue to ignore science and push their contrary religion on us.
Above and beyond Bruce's objections, I venture to say that there are any number of variables in the real world not represented in your water glass model.

If the real world were that easy to model, weather predictions would be correct every single day.

What you've got there is middle-school SCIENCE (Love the caps. You can almost hear the Dr. Science intro). And what's needed is graduate-level science - which is a lot more murky.

classicman 10-13-2009 12:49 PM
Lets try this again - VERY simplistically.....

1) Fill a glass halfway with salt water. (A 3% salt solution, if you can manage it);
2) Hold an ice cube above the water. Mark the current water level on the side of the glass;
3) Let the ice cube melt (via hair dryer, microwave oven, window sill, etc. It doesn't matter how);
4) Notice that the new water level has gone up after the ice melted.

This, fellow bipeds, is SCIENCE. Anybody can replicate this experiment. Every time, the results will be the same.

Just sayin'

Shawnee123 10-13-2009 12:52 PM
:)

Ah, yes...now I see!

Scriveyn 10-13-2009 01:15 PM
What xoxoxoBruce and classicman said ...

... plus: the volume of water increases with temparature (above 4°C), and there is a lot of the stuff in the oceans.


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