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Griff 10-23-2011 08:32 AM

:)

classicman 10-23-2011 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Lamplighter (Post 766099)
Classic really should check with Merc ...

Please STOP posting shit like that. Its really old, tired and inaccurate.

I stand on my own with my own opinions, beliefs and thoughts.
Thanks, in advance.

monster 10-23-2011 05:50 PM

and funny as all fuck when it gets a reaction :lol:

Lamplighter 10-23-2011 06:25 PM

OK, point taken

classicman 10-23-2011 06:37 PM

mine or the "bitch's"? :neutral:

If mine, thanks.

classicman 10-25-2011 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Occupy Philadelphia
The government is lying about how we calculate unemployment. How can you tell people to get a job when unemployment, before the rules were changed, is around 25%

The seasonally-adjusted SGS Alternate Unemployment Rate reflects current unemployment reporting methodology adjusted for SGS-estimated long-term discouraged workers, who were defined out of official existence in 1994.
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Spexxvet 10-26-2011 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 766730)
The seasonally-adjusted SGS Alternate Unemployment Rate reflects current unemployment reporting methodology adjusted for SGS-estimated long-term discouraged workers, who were defined out of official existence in 1994.
Link

It's lovely how the line moves lower during Clinton's higher-tax period, then rises during Bush's tax cuts. "Lower taxes to reduce unemployment" is bullshit.

classicman 10-26-2011 10:54 AM

It appears as though it was decreasing from 2003 to 2008 as well, but you missed the point of the graph.
They were showing the difference in calculations of the actual number of unemployed. According to this data, its over 20%, not 9%

Lamplighter 10-26-2011 11:40 AM

We need BigV to plot the first derivative of those data.

I predict two spikes, GWB takes office and GWB leaves office

classicman 10-26-2011 11:45 AM

Lamp, try viewing this link ... I found it pretty interesting.
I tried to save it to post, but couldn't.

Lamplighter 10-26-2011 12:02 PM

I think your link shows a 5% average over a much longer time period,
which was one goal/assumption of the Fed,
and is reflected in the graph above, until 2001 ;)

The higher rates in earlier years also coincide with higher oil prices (crisis) of the 70's

It's always fun and games with stats...

Spexxvet 10-26-2011 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 766835)
It appears as though it was decreasing from 2003 to 2008 as well, but you missed the point of the graph.
They were showing the difference in calculations of the actual number of unemployed. According to this data, its over 20%, not 9%

I didn't miss it. I transcended it. I looked beyond and gleaned additional wisdom. I stepped past the mundane, dare I say the pedestrian, information that was blatant and inferred more knowledge than you presented with your superficial graph. I AM THE 99%!

classicman 10-26-2011 01:56 PM

^^ Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ^^

Very good spexxie. That was really funny.
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Did you look at the link? It was interesting to see the trends over the longer time-frame, well right up until ...

Spexxvet 10-26-2011 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 766875)
^^ Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ^^

Very good spexxie. That was really funny.

I'll be here all week. Try the mutton.

Spexxvet 10-26-2011 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 766875)
Did you look at the link? It was interesting to see the trends over the longer time-frame, well right up until ...

It's interesting that LBJ is the only president who didn't have a major spike (Carter had a small upturn at the end). Many people would think that LBJ would have had a huge increase in unemployment - he implemented The Great Society. People would recieve compensation even when they weren't working. Haven't conservatives asserted that this would cause lazy minorities to quit their jobs and go on the dole? It doesn't seem to have happened that way.


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