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Clodfobble 03-31-2013 07:21 AM

15 Reasons You May Be Feeling Bad
 
1. Filtering: You take the negative details and magnify them, while filtering out all positive aspects of a situation.

2. Polarized Thinking: Things are black and white, good or bad. You have to be perfect or you're a failure. There is no middle ground.

3. Overgeneralization: You come to a general conclusion based on a single incident or piece of evidence. If something bad happens once you expect it to happen over and over again.

4. Mind Reading: Without their saying so, you know what people are feeling and why they act the way they do. In particular, you are able to divine how people are feeling toward you.

5. Catastrophizing: You expect disaster; you notice or hear about a problem and start "what ifs". What if tragedy strikes? What if it happens to you?

6. Personalization: Thinking that everything people do or say is some kind of reaction to you. You also compare yourself to others, trying to determine who's smarter, better looking, etc.

7. Control Fallacies: If you feel externally controlled, you see yourself as helpless, a victim of fate. The fallacy of internal control has you responsible for the pain or happiness of everyone around you.

8. Fallacy of Fairness: You feel resentful because you think you know what's fair but other people won't agree with you.

9. Blaming: You hold other people responsible for your pain, or tack the other tack and blame yourself for every problem or incident.

10. Should: You have a list of ironclad rules about how you and other people should act. People who break the rules anger you, and you feel guilty if you violate the rules.

11. Emotional Reasoning: You believe that what you feel must be true, automatically. If you feel stupid and boring, then you must truly be stupid and boring.

12. Fallacy of Change: You expect that other people will change to suit you if you just pressure or cajole them enough. You must change people because your hope for happiness seems to depend entirely on their compliance.

13. Global Labeling: You generalize one or two qualities into a negative global judgment.

14. Being Right: You are continually on trial to prove that your opinions and actions are correct. Being wrong is unthinkable and you will go to any length to prove your rightness.

15. Heaven's Reward Fallacy: You expect all your sacrifice and self-denial to pay off, as if there were someone keeping score. You feel bitter when the reward doesn't come.

Undertoad 03-31-2013 07:33 AM

These are excellent. I bet we all do some of these to some degree. I do #1, #2, and #13, my ex was a master at #5, what do you do?

Clodfobble 03-31-2013 08:33 AM

I catastrophize on a pretty much daily basis. Any time someone is 5 minutes late, I imagine that they are probably dead in a ditch. I start mentally going through the process of what it will be like when I am notified of their death, who I will need to contact on their behalf, etc.

I am also bad about #3, overgeneralization. I write off people or experiences because I feel I don't have the energy to work past a single fault or difficulty.

Dagney 03-31-2013 10:50 AM

Thanks Clod - definitely worth thinking a lot about. Do you have a link that I could read for more info?

Griff 03-31-2013 11:16 AM

Jesus. I do so many of those.

infinite monkey 03-31-2013 11:22 AM

oh my. mind reading for sure. a lot of these for sure.

the hard part is recognizing when you're doing one of those things, and working through it. that's what i'm trying to learn to do and i can't believe how difficult it is to try to change harmful thought processes. i've already decided how horrible tomorrow will be. i'm really trying to not do that to myself...but so far i'm failing.

footfootfoot 03-31-2013 12:40 PM

Nice, Ms. Fobble. Now if I stop all 15 of those behaviors I'll cease to exist. Then what? who'll worship you from afar then?

You need to think these things through.

j/k. srsly though,

I am printing that out and putting it next to Zippy's circuit diagram.

Clodfobble 03-31-2013 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagney
Thanks Clod - definitely worth thinking a lot about. Do you have a link that I could read for more info?

Sorry, it was just an infographic someone passed along to me, not attached to anything else. I definitely did not write it myself.

Pico and ME 03-31-2013 02:12 PM

I found that the very first step to managining how you react to your thinking is to just learn to observe it first. It takes time and continual practice...it really never ends.

This site has some helpul ideas.

Pete Zicato 04-01-2013 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pico and ME (Post 859032)
I found that the very first step to managining how you react to your thinking is to just learn to observe it first. It takes time and continual practice...it really never ends.

This site has some helpul ideas.

This.

The thing that made counseling worthwhile was learning to dredge my negative thoughts from sub-conscious level to conscious. Once you actually hear what you're telling yourself, you can evaluate it for truth.

'Cause generally it's a big fat lie.

footfootfoot 04-01-2013 11:36 PM

yep. Just because you think it, doesn't make it true.

Sundae 04-02-2013 04:36 AM

Argh!
Pretty much all of them! Some passed on from Nanny to Mum and then onto me, some I just lucked into.
Still, it proves I feel 15 x worserer than everyone else so I win.

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 859012)
I catastrophize on a pretty much daily basis. Any time someone is 5 minutes late, I imagine that they are probably dead in a ditch. I start mentally going through the process of what it will be like when I am notified of their death, who I will need to contact on their behalf, etc.

Once (when I wasn't at band camp) our home hairdresser was late.
I'd taken time off work - scheduled time it's true - just to have my hair done.
Mum was furious as twenty minutes became 30, became 40, became an hour.
I was about 18 and off work for the afternoon, what's not to like?
I said, "Maybe she had a car crash or something."

She hadn't.
But she had slipped on the ice getting into her car and broken something fundamental to hairdressing - an arm or a leg or her scissors. Oh, no - she probably wouldn't have been wearing a cast if it was her scissors.

It gave me a Cassandra complex for a while.
All about the me.

Gravdigr 04-03-2013 03:59 PM

They left out number 16:

You might just be feeling bad.

DanaC 04-04-2013 05:36 AM

Yeah...but number 16 wouldn't fit in a list of 15 reasons...

They didn't claim it to be all the reasons you might feel bad.


For instance, they also left out no. 17: some twat ran into the back of your car and now it's totalled and you have to deal with insurance bastards.

And no. 18: you ran out of pot and your regular dealer is away on holiday.


They've left out quite a few :P

ZenGum 04-04-2013 06:53 AM

Before invoking 8, 9 or 10 you should first make sure that you aren't actually surrounded by pricks.

infinite monkey 04-04-2013 07:59 AM

I resemble number 17, Dana. Actually, where's the 'knock on wood' smilie, I haven't been run into since last summer! Then again, my lid needs replaced so maybe a totalled car without injuries would be OK. ;)

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 859457)
Before invoking 8, 9 or 10 you should first make sure that you aren't actually surrounded by pricks.

Zen, you're right. Sometimes people really DO suck and they are stealing your ideas and your jokes and a bit of your thunder and they DO think awful things about you that they pass along so others will think awful things about you and they don't respect your humanity and never forgive your human foibles and shortcomings and they hate your clothes and they are almost certainly the pricks who stole your Sea Monkeyİ.

Don't worry, I have therapy this afternoon. :lol:

DanaC 04-04-2013 08:02 AM

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This seems an appropriate place for this :P

infinite monkey 04-04-2013 08:06 AM

I always say, if you're not a little crazy (or weird) then you're really boring. None of us are boring. :)

jimhelm 04-05-2013 12:06 AM

I feel pretty good. And I don't think I do any of those things, really. I don't think I'm going to get a grade at the end of life's lessons. Fuck it. Lets go bowling.

ZenGum 04-09-2013 06:53 PM

21 Tips to Keep Your Shit Together When You’re Depressed.

22. Before going to bed at night, make sure you have a clean cup, bowl and spoons (or whatever you need for breakfast), even if you leave everything else dirty. Because having to deal with dirty dishes before your first coffee gets a day off to a bad start.

DanaC 04-10-2013 04:14 AM

That is so true!

ZenGum 04-10-2013 06:26 AM

I call it "survival slobbery".

xoxoxoBruce 04-10-2013 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 860036)
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22. Before going to bed at night, make sure you have a clean cup, bowl and spoons (or whatever you need for breakfast), even if you leave everything else dirty. Because having to deal with dirty dishes before your first coffee gets a day off to a bad start.

That's why Dunkin Donuts and Starbucks are making millions. :haha:

Ocean's Edge 04-10-2013 12:25 PM

corollary to that - make sure at least one corner of the table or counter is clear enough to make your coffee / breakfast

Sundae 04-10-2013 01:20 PM

23. Try to make friends with someone who lives on Arran.

limey 04-10-2013 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundae (Post 860160)
23. Try to make friends with someone who lives on Arran.

That's me told. Didn't want to intrude old gal ... :(

Sent by thought transference

Sundae 04-10-2013 03:18 PM

Nonononono.
It's advice to other people.

I have two friends on Arran.
Four if you count the furries.
And you have helped me enormously.

Other people should realise this is the way to salvation too.

limey 04-10-2013 04:25 PM

That's what I call thread-drift. It started out as 15 reasons you may be feeling bad, and I read your post in that light, not the getting your shit together cintext. :o

Sent by thought transference

Sundae 04-10-2013 10:11 PM

Ah, but you see. Zen was already on 22 from 21 Tips To Keep Your Shit Together.
But now I understand where the confusion came from.

Good to speak to you anyway, lass.

Next time promise you'll come see me.
Mum already thinks you're very good for me.
A dose of your practicality would floor her; she has no idea how amazeballs you can be. You could talk to her about dementia and such. And being nice to poor old fragile me ;)
You'd leave wondering why I had any issues with such a lovely woman...

And I'd love you to meet Diz.

No, really, the more I think about it the more I'd love you to come for at least a night.

Dude111 10-20-2020 09:15 PM

Wow what an excellent thread!!!!!

Very hard to not do these things,we all want perfection and the best we can do and its hard to think otherwise....


Thank you Clodfobble!!!


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