10/18/2005: Mine fishing with a rat
 

http://cellar.org/2005/minerat.jpg

Elspode suggests this item, the full caption:

A mine detecting Gambian giant pouch rat works an area in a mine field near Vilancoulos in southern Mozambique, 450 km north east of the capital Maputo, in this November 2004 file photo. The rats are trained from an early age to associate the scent of explosives with a food reward and indicate the suspected presence of explosives by grooming and scratching the earth. Clearing the many minefields, which are a result of the country's twenty year civil war, is funded by international and Mozambican Non Government Organisations and the government.

What is left unsaid is how often the scratching rat sets off the mine. Sad. Clearly they have developed this system to let the distant (and protective-suited) humans to stand a few yards away while the rat does his business.

I feel sorry for the rats that get blown up too. But I'd rather see 1000 rats blown up than one kid or one farmer.

I read a little. They're not endangered, in some areas they're invasive pests (Key West). From the looks of the picture, they're on a short lead on a fixed line. I wonder if they use the line to verify a strip of ground, then they move the rig, repeating the process.

I don't think this is any more or less humane than harvesting chickens for food. Plus, I imagine the loss to mines is an undesirable outcome for the rat handlers as well, considering the training put into them.

I thought it would be a cold day in hell when I felt sorry for a rat, but...I do feel sorry for them. What a nasty surprise.

I wouldn't worry about it.

Most, if not all mines are designed with a force trigger of at least a few pounds to guard AGAINST rats and critters setting them off.

Your minefield in the jungle isn't much good if, after a week, you have no mines and 400 blown up squirrels.

Very messy business but yah, I don't want some kid to find it.

Wow, and I thought Atkins was tough.

Top of the food chain Baby !!!

All kidding aside this is a good and porpusfull use for vermin , cheap mine detecters , if they DO get blown up it serves a two fold purpose of getting rid of a dangerous mine and a dangerous critter , and there are PLENTY more where they came from !!!

I wonder if they all get blown up eventually?
I don't care....but I wonder.
Protective clothing or not, those guys look awful close. It must be set up for the picture. They would be crazy to work that close. :shock:

I used to have a budy in the EOD ( explosive ordinance Desposal ) unit , he said they were more worried about the small stuff ( gernades , bounceing bettys mines , etc,,,) becouse they would maim you , the BIG stuff ( 500 lb'ers and the sort ) well , if'n they went BOOM you were just a "lingering PINK mist " :eek:

One more way that we get ourselves into a bind by shrot-term thinking.
Gosh if just one guy in charge had thought about what if we win and my grandkid moves there . . . his kids might walk across that field one day.

ME-Liz
http://lettingmebe.blogspot.com

Evidently the photographer isn't concerned that the rat will set off the mine. As others have mentioned, landmines usually take several pounds of pressure to trigger them. I would be surprized if many rats were killed at all. They probably use them because they are intelligent but smaller than dogs,which ARE big enough to set off mines.

I recall reading a journalist's account (sorry, can't attribute) of seeing a Vietnamese child throwing a stick for his dog in a field and then walking to the dog and repeating the process. The journalist thought it was just a kid playing with his dog until he realized that the kid was using the dog to clear a safe path through a mine field. Wow...talk about an alternate reality.

I saw something on Animal Planet (I think) a few nights ago on this same topic. The handlers are assigned a rat and raise it, feed it cherish it, etc. to form a lifelong bond. Sort of like a miniatureized version of the Mahout. I don't recall the statistics on how many people are killed each year by mines, but I do know that it was shocking.
They work the rats on long lines and leashes in a grid type pattern.
Another reason to be glad to live in America.

Quite a few years ago I helped a sightless friend of mine prepare a term paper on the rights of humans to use animals in various circumstances. She had many, many examples, the most obvious one being her guide dog. She also had reports of Russians in World War II training dogs to associate the underside of German tanks with food. They would have explosives strapped to their backs, and when released on the battlefield they would run under the tanks and BOOM. Finally, she had documents from Vietnam describing the use of dogs to detect boobytraps. The score on that one was: Traps detected: thousands. Dogs injured/killed: None.

It is certainly not in the interests of the trainers to treat the rats as expendable. They represent a considerable expense in terms of time and effort. I bet the rats don't suffer a high mortality rate.

Have a look at

http://www.aeaf.org/papers/1997-11-ian-feinhandler.htm

Chris

We got all the ones off the beaches in Hawaii, right?