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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1047055)

... they would have told her to eat shit and die.

A tautology.

Nay, most everyone eats shit every day, it's the ppm that counts.

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 1047064)

A tautology.

Unless you insert commas.

Commas improve phrases like "Let's eat Grandma." Certainly from Grandma's point of view.

Meanwhile in Idaho...

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BOISE, Idaho — An 11-year-old girl toting a loaded AR-15 assault weapon appeared Monday at a legislative hearing with her grandfather, who is supporting a proposal that would allow visitors to Idaho who can legally possess firearms to carry a concealed handgun within city limits.

Charles Nielsen addressed the committee that voted to send the legislation to the full House as Bailey Nielsen stood at his side with the weapon slung over her right shoulder, but did not say anything.

“Bailey is carrying a loaded AR-15,” Charles Nielsen told lawmakers. “People live in fear, terrified of that which they do not understand. She's been shooting since she was 5 years old. She got her first deer with this weapon at 9. She carries it responsibly. She knows how not to put her finger on the trigger. We live in fear in a society that is fed fear on a daily basis.”

He said Bailey was an example of someone who could responsibly handle a gun, and lawmakers should extend that to non-residents.

“When they come to Idaho, they should be able to carry concealed, because they carry responsibly,” he said. “They're law-abiding citizens. It's the criminal we have to worry about.” ...

Who are the polite members of that slice of society there?

Evidently bad people don't visit Idaho so it's OK for any visitor to carry.:rolleyes:

It's weird how this debate is really between two terrified groups of people. I guess a lot of politics is like that? #armedandliberal

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1047289)

Evidently bad people don't visit Idaho so it's OK for any visitor to carry.:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by sexobon (Post 1047277)

… a proposal that would allow visitors to Idaho who can legally possess firearms to carry a concealed handgun within city limits. ...

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1047289)

Evidently bad people don't visit Idaho so it's OK for any visitor to carry.:rolleyes:

They tend not to survive in their badness.

You know, like even if Feds come to Ruby Ridge...

Seriously, ce bon Bruce is incapable of understanding that you get, have, and maintain those rights and liberties -- for that matter good manners -- that you, me, and that gal behind the tree can enforce, in our hundreds of millions, which makes the work of enforcement a light one for any individual. Enforcement of individual rights and liberties by means of killing-tools works, regardless of whatever force, fraud, or advertising may be militated against them by those who find individual rights and independence inconvenient -- to any degree from slightly to severely. (e.g., authority from modern Japan to Nazi Germany). Not that I'm going to tell you it's a nice thing, for it is not. Bruce's incapacity, though, does not place anyone else here under the slightest obligation to follow him in his tyranny-acquiescence, his devotion to, even undying love for, the way that is less than liberty. One suspects Bruce lacks a needed degree of self-awareness -- or good grades in Civics class.

Jesus Christ himself understood how necessary killing tools are; Luke 22:36 reads "Let him who hath no sword sell his cloak and buy one." Knew what was coming, he did. Also gives you an idea of what you could get an iron sword for in first-century Palestine.

I would not be surprised to discover Bruce was raised from boyhood under the Sullivan Acts, in NYC, which has not enjoyed the full suite of human rights since their 1911 enactment. Warps the perspective towards a non-free mentality -- and worse.

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Originally Posted by Griff (Post 1047302)

It's weird how this debate is really between two terrified groups of people. I guess a lot of politics is like that? #armedandliberal

:neutral: You've noticed I tend to see the debate as between the people of freedom and the people of slavery.

Me, I've seen a lot of that thing nameable as state barbarism... I can tell you stories about the fear it brings.

On a related note regarding fear, have you heard that what allows Mexican cartels their reign of terror is that Mexico has very strict gun control laws? No wonder the cartels, too, exercise rampant tyranny -- south of the border. They have trouble gaining that ascendancy north of it.

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Originally Posted by BigV (Post 1047278)

Who are the polite members of that slice of society there?

Rhetorical Q I'm sure, but it gets an answer: everyone in the picture. I can say that from experience.

If you're going to use the seldom amusing Pearls Before Swine as your philosophical guide...

a) Nine Chickweed Lane might be better food for thought
or
b) God help you.

At least, it might rid you of that whining quality.

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Originally Posted by sexobon (Post 1045007)

Do you have the right stuff to become a space cadet?

Their uniforms should be pink 'cause pink is the new black.

Hee. Well, anyway, black or a Keith Laumer-style midnight blue, how about some insignia ideas?

Air Force radiused chevrons with USN-style rating badges in place of that star inside the circle -- 'cos, you know, space Navy.

Even symbolically, wings don't work in vacuum; how about qualified space pilots bearing a representation of the M82 active galaxy on their breast? It's rather winglike, enough to suggest. Red filaments about the center, and that star or globular cluster on one side and a bit below adding its gleam.