I do find it a little weird that everyone's wringing their hands over what Trump agreed to. When has Trump ever followed through on an agreement he made? The consequences of being known as a liar in international politics are certainly something to worry about, but in the short term, there's no way any of those concessions will actually happen.

Besides, we can get out of any agreement Trump makes by pleading diminished capacity for him. There are advantages to having a wild card in office.

He just did - he agreed to escort Kim to the world stage and lavish praise on him.


As for anything else he promised, yeah. No reason to think he or Kim will follow through on anything else in the "agreement".

He respects his promises routinely whenever it promotes him and when it throws others under the bus. He routinely executes promises that screw others. So he has lawyers such as Cohen. He breaks agreements that do not entice his ego or increase his wealth.

No accident that Ivanka and Kushner are reaping increased profits ($87 million) due to their family in government. Just another example of where The Don's interests lie. We are simply a convenience.

He will not break promises to Putin - if that is not yet obvious.

He promised to destroy the TPP. He promised to attack and tarriff trade with all major American allies and trading partners. He only withdrew on promised harm to Chinese trade when they threatened to make him look bad. He is avidly destroying NAFTA - as promised. He promised to give tax cuts to the rich.

He promised to take a first step in abandoning America's support of N Korea. Only reason he will not do that is if it hurts his image.

Let the good times roll.

"Pittsburgh Post-Gazette owner ordered the paper to run an editorial defending president on racism charge."

From John R Block, owner of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette:
Reason as racism: An immigration debate gets derailed
He forgets that America's most productive people include immigrants - skilled and unskilled. Why do so many Nobel Prize winners come from the City College of NY? Because unskilled immigrants (legal and illegal) are some of the most productive Americans. Hate is to even condemn immigrants because they came to be educated. Those uneducated (until they get here) immigrants traditionally are some of America's most productive people. 50% of America's top 500 companies are founded by immigrants.

It is racist to hate people because they are uneducated. Just like Bull Connor, Dylan Roof and David Duke.

His racist rant even forgets that Trump refused to condemn Nazi, KKK, and White Supremacists in Charlotte. Since those who hate typically are Trump supporters.

After his hate editorial was published, more than a dozen Block family members condemned John Block's editorial. They said his editorial did not represent their values or that of William Block Sr. - the paper's owner for six decades. Block's editorial, "published on Martin Luther King Day, printed without the Post-Gazette editorial board's consensus, and attempting to justify blatant racism, is a violation of that legacy."

We must constantly cite Trump's racist attitudes (inspired by his ego) today so that patriotic Americans (the moderates) will vote the shithole out in 2020. Block so loves Trump - and his hate.

Public profanity has and must increase. Since Trump routinely used such hate and insults to even undermine other Republicans during those Presidential primaries. That low brow discourse is loved by anti-Americans - the least educated Americans. This shithole president - who trades in wives as if used cars - is that despicable. Even Nixon was a more honorable man. Even Nixon was not a racist. Trump is.

"United States [should] take immigrants from an overwhelmingly white country such as Norway rather than "shithole countries" like Haiti or in Africa." My relatives who are Norway citizens (everyone) even found that to be a racist Trump.

Reported by Politico at: https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...hithole-346845

A wacko extremist owner refused to publish their letter - probably because of the honesty. News (reporting all sides) must be replaced by personal opinions - just like Pravda did in the Soviet Union. No wonder Trump (and Block) think so highly of Putin.

Admitting one might be wrong must never happen when extremists promote their hate agenda. A moderate (a patriot) would have published that letter - to provide honesty and context. An anti-American (a wacko extremist) must not so as to protect his political agenda.

A wacko extremists does not first learn facts. He is an expert because his emotions (extremist political biases) tell him what to conclude. These are examples of adults who are still children. Facts be damned.

But then his wacko extremism (a classic supporter of Trump's hate even of American allies) continues.

I think Trump is racist, but Block has a good point. Just calling Trump racist is not the way to dispute or discredit his position on immigration.

Perhaps that is politically true, ie, a counterproductive argument given prevailing attitudes in certain demographics, but legally you can't form policy based on racist motivation. Even if you find an excuse that isn't directly tied to race. It's too easy (and common) to find some other factor that correlates well with race, and claim that you're basing the racist policy on that.

It is called a straw man. Only Block would tie both together. Trump is a racist. Which is completely different from another problem he has - he promotes hate of immigrants. Those are two separate issues once we ignore Block's spin.

Even Block's family speaks out against him.

Maybe hate of immigrants he can't make a buck off, but I wonder how much is pandering to his base?

That is his long history. He throws shit against the wall. Then parrots anything that sticks. All part of promoting Trump; not America. So his delivery to organizations (ie Boy Scouts, NRA) sounds like campaign speeches promoting his personal successes. And how others are evil. He is not cerebral like a leader. He grovels to the emotions of his audience.

He has no interest in promoting American trade and industry. He discovered support from many who can be goaded into destruction of trade as if that is good. Since that shit sticks to the wall.

Trump was convicted in a court of law of writing a C on the applications of black residents to his building(s) in New York. He's a straight up racist.

That's apparently a value now.

What is your source for that?

The New York Times, The Washington Post, and even Wikipedia say that matter was settled out of court without any admission of wrongdoing by Trump.

So Trump wrote his own grades on his school report card?

My bad, I got his other convictions mixed up with this one. Should have said he was charged in a court of law with a giant stack of white-vs-minority applications plus witnesses as evidence, and played the rich guy card.

You can argue that shaking things up is a good thing in the long run; you can argue that the ends justify the means. But the dude's still a racist.

Didn't say he wasn't. Just didn't want to have to start calling you Clotwobble.

The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette now knows we must be protected from free speech. So Block made Burris an editor. Then this editor began censoring political comics from their long time political comic Rogers. These comics are too dangerous to read - according to wacko extremists Block and Burris:

And more:

That's nice; but, this isn't the Funny Political Pictures thread old timer. Seems like you're just trying to fill up space to bury this page as though you're playing a trump card, so to speak. That's why you can't get on Trump's list: you're too much like him.

Those pictures clearly demonstrate how extremist this American nation has gone. Moderates were once 60% of America (ie even in Congress). We are now a tiny minority. Wacko extremists (leftist and mostly extreme right) are a greatest threat not only to America. But to the economic and political forces that once made this world so safe and stable. Wackos fear those comics.

Each comic fully applies to the topic of this thread. Because wackos have so much power as to censor even them.

The president supports Nazi, White Supremacists, and KKK in North Carolina. Once that would have been despicable. Today, due to wacko extremist (also called the Tea Party), criticism of those anti-Americans is condemned. No longer widely condemned (except outside America) are those anti-Americans.

Learn from history - ie 1930 Germany.

tw=trump wannabe

I need more hair.

Stop and smell the roses: today, June 19th, is World Sauntering Day.

So now there's talk that Trump may make an executive order to stop the family separation at the border, despite his earlier claims that the Democrats had to make a new law to do that.


My prediction: his executive order will be deliberately unconstitutional so he can 'prove' that the judges are forcing him to do it.

People are speaking out.

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Trump must have hit "the wall" (pun intended) if he actually backs down from a position due to public outcry. Elections in 5 months? I don't think we'll forget "babies in cages" so soon, but hey I could still be surprised. 'Murica

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The base may be eroding.

About fucking time.

I heard that Trump wants to legally bring in boatloads of North Korean migrants with work visas, as part of his deal with the North, to compete with the illegal Mexican migrants and drive them out.

Credit where credit is due. Trump may have done something good.

It feels like folks on the fence are starting to figure this guy out, but crying kids with brown skin only solidifies the base. I wonder how the polling numbers will look?

Anybody else piss off their racist relatives this week?

My father has wisely not mentioned the name Trump, or anything to do with national politics, in at least six months. All he has left to rant about is how California is going bankrupt because of those dang California liberals. One of these days he'll have to admit he's flipped, but it's going to take at least a year after Trump's gone for him to say it out loud.

The Don is only about promoting himself. He vainly tried to blame Democrats for making (non-existent) laws. Then blamed separation of kids on biblical teachings. And still kid crying as they were separated from their parents was making him look bad.

No problem. He made a big deal about signing an executive order - that stops all those pictures of crying kids. He does nothing about the maybe 2500 other kids still separated. Since those do not create pictures that make The Don look bad. The Don cares nothing about kids. The Don cares nothing about America. The Don only cares about The Don.

Hmmm. I'm wondering what kind of cheese should go with this whine thread. I've tagged the other whine threads with matching cheeses. I've got it! Let them eat cake ... cheesecake! It's a done deal.

approval poll tracking can help one avoid bubble thought on this matter

"the absurdity of the electorate"

10 reasons...

Only one of my friends that voted for Trump still supports him. I think that he just wants to be contrary.

Learn from mistakes. He obviously is doing what he has always done. Anyone thinking logically could see that long before 2016. Trump is there for same reasons so many made a similar mistake; knew Saddam had WMDs.

Facts made both conclusions obvious. We humans make mistakes to learn. Learn from those mistakes. What is so defective in a thinking process that made such a bogus conclusion?

It is explained by the expression "adult who is still a child". A majority of adults make decisions based only in emotions. Same mistake is why an overwhelming majority of Americans knew smoking cigarettes increased health.

Worst of these adults even believe the WTC was taken down by a government conspiracy. And quote bloggers who must be honest because they are bloggers. Too many do not learn from their mistakes.

I think there were a lot of people who had listened to campaign speeches and watched election outcomes only to be from disappointed to disgusted with the federal government.

Along comes trump and they said well shit, none of those politicians helped any and this guy talks about shit I can understand, so what the hell.

What the vast majority don't understand is the White House is a dog & pony show, what we really need is a change in Congress to make anything better. Not a push for a majority of one party or the other, Congressmen/women who are better quality.

Congress was once (ie 1960s) 60% moderates. Some now put that number as low as 10%. We know anti-Americans are extremists. We even see some posting here. Patriots are moderates. Gerrymandering and other intents to subvert democracy has made it difficult for moderates to be elected.

Moreso, some former and long time congressmen are identified by the nature of a wacko extremist. Some Congressmen have never voted yes for anything. Cantor once removed from committees four Congressmen who never voted yes. The wackos started a revolution. Cantor relented in days.

Wackos vote religiously. Typically 90% of wacko extremists vote. A moderate who does not vote therefore votes for the extremist.

Worse, even a moderate Congressman must entertain those extremists. If moderates walked into a voting booth and voted for no one, then the Congressman would pay attention to moderates. Does not matter who a moderate votes for. To a Congressman, what only matters is if that moderates walk into that voting booth.

Most moderates do not bother - therefore vote to have a Congress with so many wacko extremists.

Some Senators are so wacko extremist dumb as to even deny global warming is created by mankind. His religious beliefs tell him what to believe.

Whacko moderate fanatics are losers.

Independent moderates rule.

Have some cheesecake.

The losers are people who constantly post their emotions - and waste bandwidth doing so. Also called Trump supporters. Some who support him will not even admit they are that wacko extremist. Since dishonesty is another characteristic of a wacko extremist and Trump supporter.

You might as well face it, you're addicted to cheesecake.

Pfffft. Curtis Cook.
 

Curtis Cook wasn't even alive when JFK or RFK were shot. He lands in that "average age 27 and doesn't know anything" demographic.

Now everybody knows he's a clotpoll who posts his emotions just exactly like tw.

I have no idea what you're talking about but know nothing baby-boomers would seem the greater threat.

So I looked up your boy Cook. He is nobody. I guess he's being pimped in fascist quarters as the uncivil left? Fortunately, it is too late in this administration to appoint anyone to the court.

LOL!

Those are pretty funny, Bruce!

Did you make them up yourself? (I haven't been around enough lately to figure out if you are a Latin scholar or not.)

The only Latin epigram I know without resorting to google is Sic transit Gloria Mundi.

A catchphrase that I hope will be on the lips of the majority of Congress come the Midterms results! ;)

Nope, found on the web, McSweeny I think.

The Don considered an invasion of Venezuela in 2017. Wacko extremists see war as the best solution to all problems.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/04/polit...ion/index.html

One would think we learned from the disaster called Misson Accomplished. Wacko extremists (Trump supporters) will even deny reality; insist that Mission Accomplished also was a success.

But, but it wouldn't have been a war, just a Police Action.

One would think we learned from the disaster called Red Line that left Syria with an undisclosed cache of chemical weapons. Whacko fanatical moderate losers (Hillary supporters) will deny failure; insist that Red Line also was a success.

Then we include reality. Even the Russians made sure all those weapons were removed. The entire world responded as you well know and always forget.

Extremist get angry when a moderate president does what is necessary to avert war. "He has no backbone." Extremist get angry when a moderate president uses military action. "Tail is wagging the dog". Extremist then love how the scumbag Don is destroying the American economy, international influence, and even attacking our closest friends. Destruction and lies make extremists happy. Solutions only exist when the Central Committee of the Party orders extremists to believe it is good.

The Red Line confiscated all his chemical weapons. Any that now exists, if they existed, were created from scratch.

Meanwhile a wacko spent maybe $100 million attacking bunkers that might have contained obsolete airplane. And put holes in runways that were fixed before the day ended. The wacko extremist president could not bother to destroy what may have been chemical weapon storage tanks. Those tanks were built after all that previous stuff was removed by a Red Line - and the resulting cooperation of nations all over the world.

Ironically, if those tanks did contain chemical weapons, then the Russians, located adjacent to those tanks, knew exactly what those tanks contained.

Funny how extremists forget a massive and entire world response after a Red Line was drawn. It contradicts what extremists were ordered to believe.

Only wackos still deny the success created by that Red Line. Since only wacko extremist talk show host claim it was not a success. That long list of nations that cooperated to remove all those weapons all say it was a complete success. Who should be believe? Honest nations or wacko extremists talk show hosts?

Those wacko extremists talk show host also say Trump is doing everything good. So they must be honest.

I'm thinkin' the people of Venezuela would welcome an overthrow of the current gov.
 

Don't you agree?

Have some more cheesecake.

On Tuesday, all under 5 children must be returned to their parents. HHS has no record of whom some of those children belong. Constant questions asked by honest reporters keep resulting in "We cannot say" replies from HHS.

HHS had to do what even HHS knew would be a problem. The president did not let them even setup procedures. So imprisoned kids were even sleeping on concrete floors. No time or effort could be implemented to record where those kids were and who their parents were. HHS openly admits they do not know if those children arrived with their parents.

One lady, some time ago, got her child back after 85 days. Child was in the same cloths worn on the day he was taken. And those clothes were full of dirt. Yes dirt. She believes the kid was not bathed for 85 days.

HHS says they do not know if the child was held in an HHS facility or in a private contractor site. But the kid was stored in a town that only had an HHS facility.

Of course Trump says this is good. They were criminals (probably MS13) trying to kill us all. His statements have actually increased his popularity among extremists. Extremists say illegal immigrants have no rights - even for bathing.

Scumbags extremists of the world unite. That's why we have The Don. Extremists love liars.

"On Tuesday, all under 5 children must be returned to their parents"
 

My suggestion: gather up all the illegal aliens (adults and children) currently being held, drive the lot to the border, have them all move to the Mexican side, let them sort out which kid belongs to which parent there.

Don't let a single one cross back into the U.S.

Tw, learn from history: the quantity of words in your posts are no substitute for quality brevity (sound bytes). The greater the volume, the bigger the loser. Glad you like cheesecake so much.

I'm thinkin' the people of Venezuela would welcome an overthrow of the current gov.

Don't you agree?