Political compass II
 

If people want to post their Political Compass scores again now, I promise to graph them again, like I did on
this thread from 2002 which we briefly revisited in January.

The test takes 5 minutes and is interesting. My new numbers:

Economic Left/Right: 1.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.97

Economic Left/Right: -7.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.69

Economic Left/Right: -4.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.79

Me and Ghandi.

Economic Left/Right: -5.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.92

-5.8, -6.1.

Let's hear it for representing authoritarianism as a positive! :lol2:

economic L/R -.38
social L/A -1.28


some of the questions (like this one) are difficult to answer. i had to answer yes to it. but if they had a question that said Fathers may have careers, but their first duty is to their family. i would have answered yes to that as well.

Economic: 1.5
Authoritarian: -4.36

Many of the questions contained assumptions I didn't agree with, so I think it tends to measure me inaccurately.

I think it's amusing that most of the world leaders are all on the authoritarian side of things. Of course they are. They are the authorities. Of course they think they should be able to tell everyone what to do.

I'm almost exactly in the same spot I was back then.

My current numbers...

Economic Left/Right: 7.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.31

My old numbers...

Economic Left/Right: 7.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.41

Wow that's pretty fickle.

Econ L/R -2.38
Soc Lib/Auth -5.28

I'm creeping towards moderate...previous -2.88 and -6.41

Thanks UT, for renewing this idea. I would like to see a chart with the posted names and numbers. You know what else would be cool, would be to see the old numbers and the new numbers superimposed on each other. I, for one, find my new numbers very different economically, but almost unchanged in the social dimension.

Old Numbers
Economic Left/Right: -6.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.28


New Numbers
Economic Left/Right: -3.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.49

For your reference, here is the thread to the previous incarnation. (Not that you couldn't find it, just trying to be helpful :))

admit it, you were just looking for any excuse to post a link. UT put the link in the very first post of this thread... but nooooo BigV has to linklinklinklink. ;)

As I read the information at the site, the questions are deliberately phrased to induce a decision, not agreement. They're designed to provoke a response, which can then be measured. Hence, the "score" at the end.

As to measuring inaccurately, perhaps. But if we all use the same wrong scale, then the relative differences will be neglible, even if the starting point is wrong compared to an outside source.

By God, you're right!

l123, you've called me on this before--twice, in fact.

Once in fun, and once as a compliment.

I think this reveals a deep insecurity in me. I need to be believed, trusted and by providing the "evidence" (hey, if it wasn't true they wouldn't print it on the internet, right :crazy: ). The links may be a way of pre-empting any criticism.

Either that, or I just didn't read the opening post carefully enough.

or its possible that i just like to ridicule people to compensate for my extremely low self esteem. er, something.

By the way, l123, two more points, (no links). First, thanks for the belly laugh! That was really funny!! Second, your score post with the question that you took issue with, (see, no link, but I could have.{where's the :tongueout-nyah-nyah: smilie?}) I agree with your position. Family first. Seeing the question before I got the the quiz wasn't exactly a "spoiler" but it certainly was an "influencer".

Good Call.

always happy to make another laugh. except in the locker room. the pointing that goes along with the laughing is kind of embarrassing.

Economic Left/Right: 5.13
Authoritarian/Libertarian: 2.97

(old score, in Nov 2002, was 2.50/0.92)

P.S. I read through <strike>some</strike> most of the scores. You horde of raging lefties, you!

Economic Left/Right: 1.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.26

So far the only one more moderate than me was lookout, which is somewhat surprising to me. Anyway, I had a problem with another question:

"Sex outside of marriage is almost always immoral."

I ultimately answered it as if they meant "pre-marital sex," and not "adultery," but I debated for awhile what they meant.

June 2005:

Economic Left/Right: -3.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.23

June 2003:

Economic Left/Right: -4.38
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -5.69

March 2002:

Economic Left/Right: -3.75
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -5.38

Off Topic--sowwy
 

Heheheh...

Reminds me an exchange in an episode of Fawlty Towers I watched this weekend:

Basil: (reminiscing with his wife about their relationship during their courtship) "Still, we laughed a lot, didn't we, Sybil?"

Sybil: "Yes, dear. But not at the same time."

rofl!

Economic Left/Right: -7.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.15

Economic Left/Right: 3.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.74

Gotta like that empty quadrant.

Jebediah, you lefty freak.

It figures that the big lady with the straight jacket is the only authoritarian in the bunch. Give 'em hell Wolf!

Happy Monkey is on his way to anarchist!


Can't find my old numbers.

New numbers

Economic Left/Right: -4.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.72

I guess that means at some point in the future, I may end up in the same camp as most of you.

http://home.att.net/~hirasaki3/Ong/Manzanar.gif

is anyone else as puzzled (mystified) to see that i'm the centrist of the bunch? i'd have to dig them up, but i don't think my numbers changed too much from last time either.

I'm suprised I didn't rank more "out there" then I did. I'm actually quite moderate.

Economic Left/Right: -6.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.54

Getting on to twice as libertarian as Radar, fuck yea! Damn, missed the graph.
Old Numbers:
Economic Left/Right: -5.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.64

If enough ppl add numbers I'll update the graph.

But l123, you're NOT the centrist of this bunch. You're maybe more centrist compared to the general population, but in here you're a 'tool of the state' (taking great care not to violate Godwin's law), with latent tendencies toward economic neutrality. :)

Updated, with arrows showing movement.

http://cellar.org/2005/policompass2.gif

I’m with the Dalai Lama, Gandhi, and Nelson Mandela and most other Cellar Dwellars.

Economic Left/Right: -2.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.97

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -0.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.33

Here you go UT:
http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/poli...0.75&soc=-1.33

Edit: like a number of other people here I don't like some of the questions, they force you to pick an answer that isn't necessarily appropriate.

That's a big arrow you've got there, wolf.

She's been getting ready for the End of Days.

economic left/right = .63
social libertarian/authoritarian = .56

Dot's in the first square to the NE of the axes.

I have issues with the validity of the questions -- at least half of them didn't give me an option that reflected my true feelings on their subjects.

and as they told me when i said the same thing... we are all being judged by the same questions, so while the results may not be exactly accurate, within the cellar they can accurately represent where we are in relation to each other. er, something.



ever have one of those days where things make perfect sense in your head, but you can't quite put it into the printed word? welcome to my life.

It's a pretty big-ass arrow *I* have too. And look which way it's pointing! Sh*t, I guess I my check to Michael Moore bounced. :(

To answer your question from the other thread, I would have expected you to be on the right side of the chart, and more libertarian. Something like Economic Left/Right 3.0 and Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.0 Probably because you seem to always end up on the conservative side of every debate.

Wolf is right where I expected her to be. I'm surprised that I'm more of a libertarian than Radar. Most of these lefties surrounding me don't surprise me too much.

Actually no, you're not twice as libertarian as me. Only the lower right quadrant of the scale is libertarian. The lower left are socialists/anarchists. The upper left are socialists/authoritarians...(aka communists). The upper right are right-wing authoritarians (fascists). My numbers put me with the likes of Murray Rothbard, Ayn Rand, Milton Friedman, etc. aka LIBERTARIAN.

Leave it to Radar to make another wonderful interpretation of things.

So you can be either a commie, an anarchist, a fascist or a (sound of trumpets) libertarian.

How wonderfully simple. The point of the test was to define us more broadly than the one-dimensional left/right standard allows for, and it has succeeded! Now there are 4 categories of people! The man's a genius.

*dueling banjos*

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 0.50 (slightly to the right)
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.03 (more on the libertarian side)

Just about where (I believe) I ended up last time.

Man, Radar would miss a joke if it slapped him in the face and called his mother a whore.

Eco Left/Right -5.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian -5.64

This is Greatest Hit-worthy.

I think I ended up in fascist territory because I don't support the decriminalization of drug use and generally uphold the rule of law.

I think the test is indeed skewed.

Nah. I'm just foolin'. I really am a fascist.

speaking of fascists... if you've seen my photos then you know i have a shaved head. i started growing the moustache and goat out a week ago, something i haven't done in a couple of years.

today a guy i have met only twice walks up and asks if i'm racist because i "look alot like that guy from American History X."

you should have seen his face when i replied "yes, as a matter of fact i am. after i'm done having a beer with my good friend _____ (happens to be mexican) I am going to take him outside, spread his mouth on a curb and kick in his skull. If you want to watch you can help me carry his carcass to the nearest oven. how's that sound?"

he was still pale, shaking, and trying to pick up his jaw when i walked away. my mexican friend was still wiping tears from his eyes several hours later.

new numbers

Economic Left/Right: -3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.62


old numbers

Economic Left/Right: -4.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.36

Economic Left/Right: -3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.36

Don't support the de-criminilization of drug use? That's interesting. By what legitimate authority do you think the government has any say in what drugs, foods, medical procedures, etc. people choose?

The government derives it's limited powers from the consent of the governed. This means that government can have no powers that we as individuals don't have to grant to the government.

As an individual, you have no legitimate authority to tell any other person what foods they can eat, medical procedures they may or may not have, or what drugs they can or can't take. The only thing you can do is prevent people from endangering YOU, but not from endangering themselves.

No matter what claims are made, the truth is if a person merely uses drugs, they are not endangering anyone but themselves. If they use drugs and then get behind the wheel of a car, an airplane, etc. or perform surgery, they actually are endangering others. The crime isn't using the drugs, the crime is endangering others.

If you don't have the legitimate power to tell someone else what drugs they may or may not take (and you don't), you may not grant this power to government; nor may a thousand of you, a million of you, or a hundred million of you. You have zero authority to tell anyone what drugs they may or may not take. Zero times a billion is still zero.

To tell another person what they must or must not do with their own body is to claim that you have more ownership of their body than they do.

"Society" is nothing more than a collection of individuals. "Society" has no rights; only individuals do, and the rights of an individual over their own body, minds, and lives supercedes all else including the collective desires of individuals calling themselves "society" or "government".

In otherwords, the U.S. government has no more authority to tell you whether or not you may take drugs, than you do of telling everyone in America they must use crack cocaine everyday.

Didn't you see "Reefer Madness"? If you use drugs, you'll start killing people.

There's your trouble. I don't believe this statement. It's the sort of thing that sounds nice but doesn't fly.

Here's a simple example. A group of you are going out to dinner. Does any one of you have the right to tell the others where they can eat? No. But the majority will probably have their way. And the dissenters will go along or secede.

I don't know about you, but when I go out with my friends we each order what we want to eat, not what one of the other people tells us to eat. Even if there are 10 people who order the same dish and the other person orders something else, I've never seen the people ask that one person to go.

America is NOT a democracy. The rights of the individual are more important than the desires of millions.

I am intrigued as to why you don't believe my statement. It's like you believe if one person has no money they are poor. But if 1000 people have no money they are wealthy. It seems in your world, 0+0+0+0+0 = 100

Wow...is Radar becoming...*gulp*...kindler and gentler? He doesn't seem as harsh anymore. Man, I guess he just needed that good news about the wifey...

What? You've never been in the situation where you're all standing around trying to decide which restaurant to go to? Sure you each choose off the menu, but that's fine grain. The bigger question is which restaurant to go to. And that's a group decision.

As to the rest, your math analogy is bad. It's not that I have zero power to make decisions like this. I have 1/US Population power. Not much by itself, but a million folks here and million there - pretty soon it adds up.